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Guilo
post Jan 24 2008, 10:58 PM
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Ok, to start things off, I am not including the MP7 and Mac10 in this FAQ, because personally, I don't think that they belong in the Automatic Electric Pistol category, they are more of a low FPS AEG.

AEP stands for Automatic Electric Pistol.

The current AEPs in production are the TM G18c, TM USP, TM M93r, CYMA G18c, DE M92 and the DE USP.

AEPs are a good cold weather alternative to GBBs, and they don't require you to keep buying gas.

AEPs have low power (220 FPS tops) unless upgraded. However, because they have an excellent hop up unit, they achieve ranges of 120 feet. Fully upgraded, an AEP will shoot about 250 FPS with a maximum range of 130 feet.

Read this for the performace of an upgraded AEP:
http://www.airsofthawaii.org/ballistic/200507/g18pdi.shtml

The cheapest place I could find to get either of the Tokyo Marui AEPs was: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Home

Takedown Guides

Here is a guide for taking a TM G18c apart. It will also work for the CYMA G18c clone:
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...=G18C+stripping

I am unable to find a take-down guide for the USP. If anyone can, please PM me and I will add it to this post.

Reviews

Tokyo Marui G18c

http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/tmg18c/
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Tokyo-Marui-Glock-18C-AEP-t26439.html
http://www.airsoftretreat.com/features/reviews/tm18caep/
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/.../cat/all/page/1

Tokyo Marui M93r

http://www.justpistols.co.uk/m93r_aep.htm
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...oduct/68/cat/20

Tokyo Marui USP

http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/usp_aep/
http://www.defconairsoft.co.uk/reviews/mar...maruiuspaep.htm

CYMA G18c

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=33226
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...php/product/687

DE USP

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...2/cat/20/page/1

One more thing I thought was worth mentioning about AEPs that may help some new AEP users. During the break in period, my TM G18c would make a dull thumping noise and the bb would fly about 20 feet forwards and drop. This was because the hop up wasn't quite broken in yet. If you have this problem, try firing about 500-1,000 shots through your gun and it should fix it.

This is my first FAQ, so any feedback and advice would be appreciated.

Guilo

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post Jan 25 2008, 12:53 AM
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Very good, but you forgot:
Jeike G18 (crap)
Jieke M93r (good)
TSD G18 (rebrand of Jieke)
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post Jan 25 2008, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (SWASS @ Jan 24 2008, 09:53 PM) *
Very good, but you forgot:
Jeike G18 (crap)
Jieke M93r (good)
TSD G18 (rebrand of Jieke)
DE M9


Ok, thank you. I haven't looked at too many of the new ones, this is all older knowledge that I put together. I will research those and edit my post.


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Woah, I thought this was posted in the AEG section, then when I looked up at the top of the page for the AEG tab, I found a spelling error! a-blushing.gif When did we get a AEP section? I must have been blind all this time, and what happened to the upgrade section. Oh well...

That is a mighty fine guide man. Maybe add pics under the name of each gun just for looks? eh, idk. a-gross.gif


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post Jan 25 2008, 02:23 AM
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wow... I was thinking about an AEP and still am since I'm a big fan of reliable weapons (cause fps isn't worth squat if your gun doesn't shoot)

for a moment, I thought this was gonna be a hate thread when I mistaked the "q" in the title for a "g"... lol...


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QUOTE (Hush02 @ Jan 25 2008, 02:23 AM) *
wow... I was thinking about an AEP and still am since I'm a big fan of reliable weapons (cause fps isn't worth squat if your gun doesn't shoot)

for a moment, I thought this was gonna be a hate thread when I mistaked the "q" in the title for a "g"... lol...


Rofl the same happened to me, I was thinking this topic is going to get closed! XD

On topic: Are aeps really worth it? It lacks the real action used by the gas pistols.


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Me too!! I thought it said "AEP pain.gif"... ROFL.

ok... sorry.


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There's really nothing more dependable out there (with the exception of a really good spring pistol).

I'll never give mine up. They are the future of airsoft (it's getting harder and harder to get green gas and I'm not a big fan of propane) and their performance is going to increase as time goes on.

I have some really nice GBB's, but AEP's have it all over them as far as dependability goes.
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post Jan 25 2008, 11:47 AM
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Yes, AEPs are worth it in my opinion. They have the same range and accuracy as a GBB, you can get one for half of the price of a good GBB, and you don't have to pay for gas. Not to mention, you can still use it whenever it is less than 50* outside.


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QUOTE (Guilo @ Jan 25 2008, 12:47 PM) *
Yes, AEPs are worth it in my opinion. They have the same range and accuracy as a GBB, you can get one for half of the price of a good GBB, and you don't have to pay for gas. Not to mention, you can still use it whenever it is less than 50* outside.


I am pretty much sold on AEP's...save for one thing. their power. now power isnt the biggest factor in any of my airsoft decisions. But I do however need a gun that will make my hits hard enough to feel. Are these guns good in that respect? Just for helping your advice, I will probably be playing in a woodland-esque enviroment.

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QUOTE (Hush02 @ Jan 25 2008, 02:23 AM) *
wow... I was thinking about an AEP and still am since I'm a big fan of reliable weapons (cause fps isn't worth squat if your gun doesn't shoot)

for a moment, I thought this was gonna be a hate thread when I mistaked the "q" in the title for a "g"... lol...

Man me too! a-jester.gif

QUOTE (Guilo @ Jan 24 2008, 10:58 PM) *
Ok, to start things off, I am not including the MP7 and Mac10 in this FAQ, because personally, I don't think that they belong in the Automatic Electric Pistol category, they are more of a low FPS AEG.

AEP stands for Automatic Electric Pistol.

The current AEPs in production are the TM G18c, TM USP, TM M93r, CYMA G18c, and the DE USP.

AEPs are a good cold weather alternative to GBBs, and they don't require you to keep buying gas.

AEPs have low power (220 FPS tops) unless upgraded. However, because they have an excellent hop up unit, they achieve ranges of 120 feet. Fully upgraded, an AEP will shoot about 250 FPS with a maximum range of 230 feet.

Read this for the performace of an upgraded AEP:
http://www.airsofthawaii.org/ballistic/200507/g18pdi.shtml

The cheapest place I could find to get either of the Tokyo Marui AEPs was: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Home

Takedown Guides

Here is a guide for taking a TM G18c apart. It will also work for the CYMA G18c clone:
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...=G18C+stripping

I am unable to find a take-down guide for the USP. If anyone can, please PM me and I will add it to this post.

Reviews

Tokyo Marui G18c

http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/tmg18c/
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Tokyo-Marui-Glock-18C-AEP-t26439.html
http://www.airsoftretreat.com/features/reviews/tm18caep/
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/.../cat/all/page/1

Tokyo Marui M93r

http://www.justpistols.co.uk/m93r_aep.htm
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...oduct/68/cat/20

Tokyo Marui USP

http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/usp_aep/
http://www.defconairsoft.co.uk/reviews/mar...maruiuspaep.htm

CYMA G18c

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=33226
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...php/product/687

DE USP

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...2/cat/20/page/1

One more thing I thought was worth mentioning about AEPs that may help some new AEP users. During the break in period, my TM G18c would make a dull thumping noise and the bb would fly about 20 feet forwards and drop. This was because the hop up wasn't quite broken in yet. If you have this problem, try firing about 500-1,000 shots through your gun and it should fix it.

This is my first FAQ, so any feedback and advice would be appreciated.

Guilo


Will all the TM G18C upgrades work for the CYMA G18C? I know that it is a clone of the TM but the TM is and EBB. Also will it have the same effect?


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QUOTE (Deadly Weapon @ Jan 25 2008, 04:23 PM) *
Man me too! a-jester.gif
Will all the TM G18C upgrades work for the CYMA G18C? I know that it is a clone of the TM but the TM is and EBB. Also will it have the same effect?

TM also makes an AEP G18C, they're a few upgrades for it. And the Cyma is 100% TM compatiable.
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QUOTE (choffman10 @ Jan 25 2008, 04:30 PM) *
TM also makes an AEP G18C, they're a few upgrades for it. And the Cyma is 100% TM compatiable.


oh ok thx


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hey guys!
I'm kinda novice in airsoft and I want to buy a pistol.
I have a small question...does an AEP has semi-automatic fire? and blow-back function too?
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AEPs have semi-auto, but do not have blowback.

If you see an AEP listed as having blowback then it's most likely a mismarked EBB which is not worth purchasing for skirmishing use.
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yes, blowback at the moment is a sure indicator that the pistol is going to preform poorly and break the first week...


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the gun I was looking was a Tokyo Marui Beretta 92...it said blowback with 4 batteries of 1.5V...the price was around 40$..
I also found a ASG Beretta 92 with gas (no blowback) at 60$..
wich one should I choose?
I'm in a censored2.gif situation... 'cause there aren't many airsoft suppliers in my country...all of them are only on-line and they don't provide accurate infos about what they are selling.

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QUOTE (private @ Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM) *
the gun I was looking was a Tokyo Marui Beretta 92...it said blowback with 4 batteries of 1.5V...the price was around 40$..
I also found a ASG Beretta 92 with gas (no blowback) at 60$..
wich one should I choose?
I'm in a s*itty situation... 'cause there aren't many airsoft suppliers in my country...all of them are only on-line and they don't provide accurate infos about what they are selling.

ty.

Anything that is electric AND blowback, is junk. There are 3 exceptions, and they all cost $150+ and are rifles.


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QUOTE (private @ Jan 30 2008, 08:45 AM) *
the gun I was looking was a Tokyo Marui Beretta 92...it said blowback with 4 batteries of 1.5V...the price was around 40$..
I also found a ASG Beretta 92 with gas (no blowback) at 60$..
wich one should I choose?
I'm in a s*itty situation... 'cause there aren't many airsoft suppliers in my country...all of them are only on-line and they don't provide accurate infos about what they are selling.

ty.


I don't know anything about the ASG Beretta, but the TM 92 Electric Blow Back will be terrible. They don't shoot as hard as an AEP, and will break pretty quick.

Please do not try and bypass the filters using an * instead of the letter.

By the way, sorry I haven't updated the first post yet, I am not able to edit it to add in the other info.


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QUOTE (private @ Jan 30 2008, 11:45 AM) *
the gun I was looking was a Tokyo Marui Beretta 92...it said blowback with 4 batteries of 1.5V...the price was around 40$..
I also found a ASG Beretta 92 with gas (no blowback) at 60$..
wich one should I choose?
I'm in a censored2.gif situation... 'cause there aren't many airsoft suppliers in my country...all of them are only on-line and they don't provide accurate infos about what they are selling.

ty.


I think TM is going to release an M9 AEP soon, you should save up for that.


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QUOTE (airsoft_sniper @ Jan 30 2008, 01:23 PM) *
I think TM is going to release an M9 AEP soon, you should save up for that.


I agree, if TM makes a Beretta M92 AEP, you should save up for that.


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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, nice FAQ guide thing! I'm actually planning to review my M93R for you guys, so you might have a new link to add to that review list soon!

BTW, there is also a DE M92 AEP availiable, so you might want to add that too.

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QUOTE (airsoft_sniper @ Jan 30 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, nice FAQ guide thing! I'm actually planning to review my M93R for you guys, so you might have a new link to add to that review list soon!

BTW, there is also a DE M92 AEP availiable, so you might want to add that too.


Yeah, I can't edit my original post... do I just need to pm a mod about that?


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QUOTE (Guilo @ Jan 30 2008, 10:38 PM) *
Yeah, I can't edit my original post... do I just need to pm a mod about that?

Well, if you'd included my MP7, maybe I'd be happier about all of this ranting2.gif j/k j/k...

Fixed.

If you want to add any links etc just pm me and I'll add them in for you.

Thanks for doing this.

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"an AEP will shoot about 250 FPS with a maximum range of 230 feet."
Dude, theres no way an AEP can send a BB 230feet downrange...
You must mean 130feet.
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QUOTE (airsoftmonkey454 @ Feb 8 2008, 02:12 PM) *
"an AEP will shoot about 250 FPS with a maximum range of 230 feet."
Dude, theres no way an AEP can send a BB 230feet downrange...
You must mean 130feet.


My MP7 drops about 2 inches in 80 ft (that's how far it is to my target tree from the back porch), 230ft is within it's range.

Haven't tried the pistols enough to know... but to me the MP7 is just a big pistol.

PS, pinned this, realized after I smarted off the other day I forgot to do so.

Again, thanks for doing this... now add the MP7!!! heheh

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Yes, I meant 130 feet, sorry about that. I will work on the MP7 now, but I will be busy this week, so I may not be able to get around to it.

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I support the AEP revolution! just got one today. Glock 18c a-grin.gif


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post Feb 25 2008, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (kimberjunkie @ Feb 24 2008, 09:14 PM) *
I support the AEP revolution! just got one today. Glock 18c a-grin.gif


The G18c is a great gun. Which brand did you go with?

Nice name. I hope they come out with a Kimber 1911 AEP.


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I might get an aep but I want to know which one would be better the Cyma G18C AEP or a Beretta M92 AEP, or is there a better one

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QUOTE (sparks @ Mar 2 2008, 03:39 PM) *
I might get an aep but I want to know which one would be better the Cyma G18C AEP or a Beretta M92 AEP, or is there a better one


Well, I'd have to know which brand of M93r AEP you mean.

There is a better one than both of those, the TM, if you're willing to spend more money.


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post Mar 11 2008, 09:03 PM
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Is it necessary to decompress the spring of an AEP or would it not really matter? Also, does anyone know if the DE USP (M81) comes with battery/charger? If not, I will probably get the CM 030. Would I need a custom charger in both situations? Thanks!


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^^^It's just like any other electric gun, the spring needs to be decompressed. I mean, AEPs already shoot pretty slow as it is.


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post May 3 2008, 09:01 AM
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This is a sticky so I don't know if I'm allowed to bump... but it's a question on AEP's.... so...
Does anyone know if this mag will work with the DE USP? They look very similar.. Thanks.


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QUOTE (wongton @ May 3 2008, 06:01 AM) *
This is a sticky so I don't know if I'm allowed to bump... but it's a question on AEP's.... so...
Does anyone know if this mag will work with the DE USP? They look very similar.. Thanks.



Hey Guys,

So I have a TM USP AEP and I really like it. It becomes even more dangerous/valuable when you have the 100 rd Hi-cap mag in it. You can overwhelm other pistol users with the ROF and outlast them with the high ammo capacity. I have had problems with people calling their hits when I shoot them though. Opponents wearing a sweatshirt will have trouble knowing they got hit at range. So, aim for Skin!!

The pistol is very accurate but is definitely best used for CQB action, or if you like moving in close to your opponent. Actually I have found that when using a pistol that my speed, mobility and ability to use cover increase quite a bit. It is very satisfying to "out craft" AEG users with just a pistol and OWN them up close!!
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cant wait to get mine.. comes with all the accesories plus a g&g laser =)


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Do the math.
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a-salute.gif I had one of these...had. The slide stopped blowing back(no big deal,just not as cool) Then it just stopped working. It had a retarted safety button you had to push on the handgrip and it got disconnected from the actual saftey so the safety is permanetly on!! Darn..it was cool too. But I agree, aep's are good for cold weather a-salute.gif


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I have a question, and a totally irrelevant comment. First off, is the CYMA Glock 18c a good gun? In terms of range, ROF, and durability? I was thinking of picking it up as a sidearm, and as a lender gun. Also, please change the FAQ into caps, as when I saw it I thought it said Aep :pain: a-laugh.gif


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post Jan 19 2010, 12:56 AM
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Hey look, I got one of these now. Boy do I feel special.


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QUOTE (TehNubFish @ Jan 18 2010, 07:12 PM) *
I have a question, and a totally irrelevant comment. First off, is the CYMA Glock 18c a good gun? In terms of range, ROF, and durability? I was thinking of picking it up as a sidearm, and as a lender gun. Also, please change the FAQ into caps, as when I saw it I thought it said Aep pain.gif a-laugh.gif

Range? No
Fps? No
Durability? Yes
Affordability? Very yes.
But it is a very good sidearm and very good AEP. FPS is going to be ~240fps and effective range is going to be 40-70 feet.


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any one know how good the jieke m93r is and were do they sell it
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