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> The Airsoft Sniper Revolution, All snipers concerned with where we are going report.
Chris R
post Jul 4 2007, 04:38 PM
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Airsoft snipers used to hold an enormous advantage in range over the AEG users, but with all of the popularity with aegs, and the new upgrades that are coming out for them, killing a sniper is basically, just find him, and spray. The range gap that we hold over AEGs, is slowley, but surely, closing.

There are no "new" airsoft snipers that have a significant breakthrough. The bulk of the attention of manufacturers is focused on cheap chinese clones, boasting high fps and bad parts. I think we are slowley being abandoned.

Some brave souls have realized this and have sought out ways to improve the preformance of their rifles; the most popular idea, now seems to be "Pill-shaped" ammo, and rifling. But there are those who do nothing but bash these ideas down to the ground, telling them it will never work.

This is not a discussion about this specific idea and it's advantages, and disadvantages. Please post accordingly

I see two options to our dilema (sp).

ONE: We select a small group of trusted people (or just one) on this forum, and donate funds to them so they may research the idea, of pill, or flathead ammo in snipers. We can't expect them to do it by themselves, and we have already established that big companies will not try to develope these any time soon. We just need to let them know that it will (or will not) work, then they might be encouraged to take the reigns.

TWO: We bombard presision bb makers to make a better heavy-weight bb. The only option out there now is straight/digicon, and the only reason we buy from them is because they are the only makers of bbs above .35 grams (excluding .88). And we all know that they really aren't that great. If we can get Maruzen or TM to make a heavy-weight bb line with the presision of their .29s and .3s, they would sell like hotcakes, and most likely cut our groupings in half, adding to our effective range, possibly making 300ft. shots a lot more common. And we would tell them not to coat their bbs w/ graphite. a-thumbsup.gif

This thread will contain no flaming, or bashing, consructive critasizm please.

And, this will not be a "lets talk about it thread. This is the thread where we start to do something. This is the thread where we organize ourselves into a community that does for themselves what was once done for them.

Who's with me!!! a-famerican.gif

Peace to all,
Chris


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- Christafuarion   The Airsoft Sniper Revolution   Jul 4 2007, 04:38 PM
- - killamaniac   I agree with all of it. The only thing is that the...   Jul 4 2007, 05:25 PM
|- - Graham Abram   QUOTE (killamaniac @ Jul 4 2007, 04:25 PM...   Jul 5 2007, 12:31 AM
- - Christafuarion   That is true, my friend, but that is a small point...   Jul 4 2007, 05:47 PM
|- - 762   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 4 2007, 05:47...   Jul 4 2007, 06:43 PM
- - Christafuarion   Oh you have? Good. Sorry, I didn't mean bomb...   Jul 4 2007, 07:06 PM
|- - Riotcontrol6   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 4 2007, 08:06...   Jul 4 2007, 08:02 PM
- - ghosts_shadow 2   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 4 2007, 03:38...   Jul 4 2007, 08:24 PM
|- - 762   Actually I would disagree, the range is staying th...   Jul 4 2007, 09:05 PM
- - majorpeaaches   PM sent   Jul 4 2007, 10:19 PM
- - The Mad Bomber   I agree that technology is important however, skil...   Jul 5 2007, 12:31 AM
|- - 762   The reason is just that the fact of with m14's...   Jul 5 2007, 01:06 AM
|- - The Mad Bomber   QUOTE (762 @ Jul 5 2007, 02:06 AM) The re...   Jul 5 2007, 01:10 AM
- - bat21win   I think that there has to be a time when airsoft w...   Jul 5 2007, 02:03 AM
|- - The Mad Bomber   Sometimes I wish I could use a downgraded air rifl...   Jul 5 2007, 02:07 AM
- - Christafuarion   I have seen a great intrest in both of the project...   Jul 5 2007, 11:22 AM
|- - joker8baller   Eh, no one likes the Maruzen SGM .29's? My Tan...   Jul 5 2007, 11:23 AM
- - Christafuarion   We do. What we mean is bbs .30 AND UP with the qua...   Jul 5 2007, 11:27 AM
- - Phobia3472   I don't know much about physics but wont pill ...   Jul 5 2007, 11:37 AM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (Phobia3472 @ Jul 5 2007, 11:37 AM)...   Jul 5 2007, 11:45 AM
- - hkarmydude   yes but along with the rifling of the barrel or so...   Jul 5 2007, 12:31 PM
- - Christafuarion   I believe that the barrel is not the object to be ...   Jul 5 2007, 02:16 PM
|- - Graham Abram   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 5 2007, 01:16...   Jul 5 2007, 02:56 PM
- - dahoboking   I was kinda reading through and thought...if we ma...   Jul 5 2007, 02:50 PM
- - 5.56er   I just have to say that this is a very interesting...   Jul 5 2007, 02:57 PM
- - dahoboking   you're right about the bullet but still, I wou...   Jul 5 2007, 04:51 PM
- - Officer_Matlack   Ok, well I'm here to spread what I think is a ...   Jul 5 2007, 05:55 PM
|- - 762   I think the reality is that pill shaped bb's w...   Jul 5 2007, 07:54 PM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (762 @ Jul 5 2007, 07:54 PM) I thin...   Jul 5 2007, 07:57 PM
- - sachiel9051   I'd actually love to try these with my race pi...   Jul 5 2007, 08:48 PM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (sachiel9051 @ Jul 5 2007, 08:48 PM...   Jul 5 2007, 09:00 PM
- - hkarmydude   with pill-shaped BB's there would be no need f...   Jul 5 2007, 08:54 PM
- - sachiel9051   Hmm, so a twisted pill shaped BB will need to be s...   Jul 5 2007, 09:18 PM
- - CaptainJake   Ok, I've been reading a lot about this pill sh...   Jul 5 2007, 09:23 PM
- - Christafuarion   You guys are misunderstanding this just a little b...   Jul 5 2007, 09:25 PM
|- - CaptainJake   Srry, I saw a lot of talk about pill bbs and thoug...   Jul 5 2007, 09:30 PM
- - bat21win   If they can make air rifles that shoot at 1200 fps...   Jul 5 2007, 09:28 PM
- - Christafuarion   No, you're fine, you posted only seconds befor...   Jul 5 2007, 09:41 PM
|- - 762   Chris emailing maruzen or tm will not do anything ...   Jul 5 2007, 09:53 PM
- - Christafuarion   I thought about that before, but the goal is to ma...   Jul 5 2007, 10:02 PM
- - Zack   I have some more info on pill shaped bullets. A c...   Jul 5 2007, 10:58 PM
- - Christafuarion   Very good, ZACK. A cookie for you. I think this wo...   Jul 5 2007, 11:45 PM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 5 2007, 11:45...   Jul 5 2007, 11:48 PM
- - Graham Abram   That is one outstanding find Zack! A very int...   Jul 6 2007, 12:11 AM
|- - Zack   QUOTE (Graham Abram @ Jul 6 2007, 12:11 A...   Jul 6 2007, 12:21 AM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (Graham Abram @ Jul 6 2007, 12:11 A...   Jul 6 2007, 12:40 AM
|- - 762   The Asashi or Asahi m40 was banned because the des...   Jul 6 2007, 08:33 AM
|- - RocketPropeldCorn   QUOTE (762 @ Jul 6 2007, 09:33 AM) The As...   Jul 8 2007, 11:31 AM
- - bgugi   1. marui and maruzen will laugh, even if you send ...   Jul 6 2007, 09:05 AM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (bgugi @ Jul 6 2007, 09:05 AM) 1. m...   Jul 6 2007, 12:01 PM
|- - Graham Abram   QUOTE (bgugi @ Jul 6 2007, 08:05 AM) 1. m...   Jul 6 2007, 04:45 PM
- - spray and pray   Wow thats a good idea. bb's that are sort of l...   Jul 6 2007, 09:12 AM
- - sgt. pwn   Rap4 which is a milsim paintball company has alrea...   Jul 6 2007, 09:59 AM
- - Christafuarion   ZACK- Sorry buddy, you'll have to stick to the...   Jul 6 2007, 11:41 AM
|- - The Mad Bomber   I'd suggest sending the petitions to every pel...   Jul 6 2007, 11:56 AM
- - Christafuarion   I need WAY more statements from you guys. Please. ...   Jul 6 2007, 04:44 PM
- - Christafuarion   Okay...The statement think hasn't really worke...   Jul 6 2007, 05:15 PM
- - dahoboking   I think making a sniper a pump gun would make it t...   Jul 7 2007, 10:39 PM
- - 5.56er   I know this is a bit of a mild necropost, but I ha...   Jul 26 2007, 03:30 PM
- - Christafuarion   Yeah, a bit of a necro post, but don't worry a...   Jul 26 2007, 04:41 PM
- - Graham Abram   I have actually been researching a new design whic...   Jul 27 2007, 01:49 AM
|- - Christafuarion   QUOTE (Graham Abram @ Jul 26 2007, 11:49 ...   Jul 27 2007, 07:59 PM
- - LtAttiic   wow, even I (not a sniper) think this is great. I ...   Jul 27 2007, 08:20 PM
- - yakuzaninja   QUOTE (LtAttiic @ Jul 27 2007, 09:20 PM) ...   Jul 27 2007, 08:29 PM
|- - Christafuarion   QUOTE (yakuzaninja @ Jul 27 2007, 06:29 P...   Jul 27 2007, 08:30 PM
||- - LtAttiic   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 27 2007, 06:3...   Jul 27 2007, 08:31 PM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (yakuzaninja @ Jul 27 2007, 08:29 P...   Jul 27 2007, 10:38 PM
- - Christafuarion   Ok... I posted a topic in ASR, and I was checking ...   Jul 27 2007, 10:34 PM
- - Zack   I have also purchased a bag of these airfins. I w...   Jul 27 2007, 10:47 PM
- - yakuzaninja   QUOTE (bat21win @ Jul 27 2007, 11:38 PM) ...   Jul 27 2007, 11:58 PM
|- - Zack   QUOTE (yakuzaninja @ Jul 27 2007, 11:58 P...   Jul 28 2007, 04:37 PM
- - Wert   I agree one hundred percent, if TM or maruzin star...   Jul 28 2007, 12:19 AM
- - Christafuarion   Yeah, but rules are rule, no matter how screwed up...   Jul 28 2007, 04:41 PM
- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   QUOTE (Christafuarion @ Jul 4 2007, 04:38...   Jul 28 2007, 07:37 PM
- - uscrocks29   ASR's mods have been deleting a lot of topics ...   Jul 28 2007, 07:53 PM
|- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   QUOTE (uscrocks29 @ Jul 28 2007, 07:53 PM...   Jul 28 2007, 08:08 PM
- - BoostedBlue   Even thought I have a source for digicon .43g bbs,...   Jul 28 2007, 09:00 PM
|- - Zack   QUOTE (BoostedBlue @ Jul 28 2007, 09:00 P...   Jul 28 2007, 09:37 PM
|- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   QUOTE (Zack @ Jul 28 2007, 09:37 PM) I su...   Jul 28 2007, 09:42 PM
||- - BoostedBlue   QUOTE (☆Tiger Shark☆ @ Jul 28 200...   Jul 28 2007, 09:57 PM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (Zack @ Jul 28 2007, 09:37 PM) I su...   Jul 28 2007, 11:41 PM
|- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   QUOTE (bat21win @ Jul 28 2007, 11:41 PM) ...   Jul 29 2007, 12:28 AM
|- - bat21win   QUOTE (☆Tiger Shark☆ @ Jul 29 200...   Jul 29 2007, 12:32 AM
- - hicapa   I've got a possible solution to the narrowing ...   Jul 28 2007, 10:30 PM
|- - BoostedBlue   QUOTE (hicapa @ Jul 28 2007, 11:30 PM) I...   Jul 28 2007, 10:59 PM
- - El Ornitorrinco   Rifling is the solution. But then again, it is no...   Jul 28 2007, 11:38 PM
- - krap101   I'm kinda late, but still ya know the saying.....   Jul 29 2007, 12:51 AM
|- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   awesome and if the pill shaped bbs were to be mad...   Jul 29 2007, 01:13 AM
- - krap101   if a "pill" bb was developed that would ...   Jul 29 2007, 01:51 AM
- - BoostedBlue   Right but rifling like the TK barrels stop being e...   Jul 29 2007, 01:59 AM
- - krap101   Imo most likely for this to work, the newer sniper...   Jul 29 2007, 02:01 AM
|- - ☆Tiger Shark☆   QUOTE (krap101 @ Jul 29 2007, 02:01 AM) I...   Jul 29 2007, 04:11 AM
- - Christafuarion   I think that the problem with tk barrels is that t...   Jul 29 2007, 12:50 PM
- - El Ornitorrinco   This thread is becoming less intelligent by the po...   Jul 29 2007, 03:41 PM
|- - RocketPropeldCorn   QUOTE (El Ornitorrinco @ Jul 29 2007, 03...   Jul 29 2007, 04:56 PM
- - Skate Rat 19   We could also just start using 8mm bbs. I would im...   Jul 29 2007, 09:15 PM
|- - Christafuarion   QUOTE (Skate Rat 19 @ Jul 29 2007, 07:15 ...   Jul 29 2007, 09:37 PM
- - RocketPropeldCorn   Most snipers don't want range. They want bette...   Jul 30 2007, 08:05 AM
- - Epsom   Here's something to think about. Now I know ...   Jul 30 2007, 12:41 PM
- - bat21win   QUOTE (Epsom @ Jul 30 2007, 12:41 PM) Oh ...   Jul 30 2007, 12:53 PM
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