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Feb 24 2010, 04:48 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 191 Joined: 24-January 10 From: 44° 51' 17" N / 93° 28' 14" W Member No.: 54,499 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Reynard |
So I'm planning on buying a KWA M4 S-System that was on sale on the BST forums. My question is however is what type of BBs should I get. If I remember correctly, the owner stated that the gun fires 370ish with .2s. Also, what type of BBs should I get? Thanks.
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Feb 24 2010, 05:31 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 171 Joined: 8-September 08 From: Hampshire (England) Member No.: 43,180 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Miles-1877 |
Good quality ones ;)
"370ish with .2g BB's" you may want to consider .25s, they wont have the same FPS but the will be more accurate -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 24 2010, 05:38 PM
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ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 1,626 Joined: 10-January 08 From: Boston area Member No.: 35,467 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 6 (100%) Add Feedback for yee245 |
You'll get different answers from different people on what they think is the best BB, though a few that often come up will generally be Maruzen SGM, Bioval BBBMAX, Goldenball, BB King, G&G, Airsoft Elite, and maybe a couple others depending on what weight you're planning on using and how much you're willing to spend.
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Feb 24 2010, 08:30 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: 8-January 10 From: Long Island, New York Member No.: 54,152 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for JuiceHead |
I personally swear by G&G's but as long as they are one of the brands listed in the above post you should be fine. If you meant what weight I would use .25's but it's up to you.
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Feb 24 2010, 08:32 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 191 Joined: 24-January 10 From: 44° 51' 17" N / 93° 28' 14" W Member No.: 54,499 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Reynard |
Any word about Guarders?
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Feb 24 2010, 09:01 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: 8-January 10 From: Long Island, New York Member No.: 54,152 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for JuiceHead |
Never used them sorry.
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Feb 24 2010, 09:03 PM
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![]() DCU is sexy Group: Elite Posts: 2,232 Joined: 27-June 09 From: Reading, PA/My Mother Member No.: 49,611 My Temperament:6, 1, 5, 12 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 15 (100%) Add Feedback for Gcommando36 |
My personal favorites are Mad Bull and G&G. Mad Bull has great bios that aren't too expensive, and G&G's are superb quality and accuracy. I personally like Mad Bull more for some reason, but whatever. I used to use TSD, but they're horribly inaccurate.
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Feb 24 2010, 09:43 PM
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![]() Camaro>Airsoft=no more airsoft for me Group: Moderator Posts: 2,175 Joined: 11-September 08 From: GA Member No.: 43,247 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 26 (100%) Add Feedback for hightower |
I use TSD Tactical .23s or .25s. Some people don't like them for reasons I have never heard or understood but I'm perfectly fine with them!
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Feb 24 2010, 09:55 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 380 Joined: 4-August 09 From: New York Member No.: 50,645 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Not so Kurz |
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EDIT: It censored it out. It's essentially the second B word, after the one that illustrates a female dog. This post has been edited by Not so Kurz: Feb 24 2010, 09:56 PM -------------------- [Not so Kurz] 3:19 am: Go to Insane Clown Posse conccert, go to nickelback concert, chop balls off
[stickydude1] 3:19 am: chop balls off [Romeo_Delta] 6:25 pm: Kurz, they're ripe at your age™ ^the man gets me every time WTB/WTT: NOVESKE EXTERNALS, AKs, AND HIGH SPEED INTERNALS. ICS M4 FOR TRADE |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:19 PM
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![]() ASF Immigrant Group: Member Posts: 43 Joined: 12-February 10 Member No.: 54,941 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for azur |
This is definitely worth taking a gander at:
Different brand comparisons Different brand accuracy tests Different brand comparison (biodegradable) -------------------- ![]() |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:46 PM
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![]() Puts the CP in CCCP! Group: Elite Posts: 6,325 Joined: 7-June 08 From: North Bay Area, CA Member No.: 40,316 SOA Name: Kavurcen Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 12 (100%) Add Feedback for Kavurcen |
Definitely go for Bioval or BB King, all the way. The best BB's on the market and the best budget BB's on the market, respectively.
SGM's don't count, they cost more than pure unicorn horn powder. -------------------- Want to get into classics cheap? ![]() ![]() DON'T SEND ME "WHICH GUN" PMs. They're flooding my inbox, I won't reply. |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:52 PM
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ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 1,626 Joined: 10-January 08 From: Boston area Member No.: 35,467 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 6 (100%) Add Feedback for yee245 |
BB EDIT: It censored it out. It's essentially the second B word, after the one that illustrates a female dog. I had to look it up, since I forgot which region they are most commonly found in, but they are generally going to be less common in places that are not Canada. In the past I've heard that these, Blaster Devils, and others are good, but again, some of them have regional availability. This is definitely worth taking a gander at: Different brand comparisons Different brand accuracy tests Different brand comparison (biodegradable) But make sure to be aware that those tests are from nearly 5 years ago and only comparing .20g BBs. It's fairly irrelevant when considering using BBs that are heavier and when half of what are considered to have the best performance aren't even there. |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:59 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 95 Joined: 5-January 10 From: South Florida Member No.: 54,058 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Phinatic |
I mostly use G&G .25s, I almost hate shooting because I love them so much.
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Feb 24 2010, 11:03 PM
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![]() Experience > $400 guns Group: Member Posts: 2,142 Joined: 4-December 07 From: Huntington Beach, South CA Member No.: 34,709 SOA Name: Kamikaz3 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 3 (100%) Add Feedback for Kamikaz3 |
I've always had good success with G&G's, Airsoft Elite's, and the ASGI rebranded Madbull BB's. TSD's, I've had a mixed bag (pun not intended)
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Feb 25 2010, 11:58 PM
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ASF Citizen ![]() Group: ASF Sponsor Posts: 152 Joined: 12-January 10 Member No.: 54,215 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Airsoft Unlimited |
The vast majority of these BBs are nothing more than rebrands. The BB Bastage brand in Canada is the same brand as Madbull, Javelin, Guarder, WE and others labeled from this OEM manufacturer.
Most people know that "Madbull" was the original company who started selling the heavy weight sniper BBs from Taiwan last year. Everyone knows they only made the .36 in green, the .40 in orange, and the .43 in black - and none of these in white colors. The truth is they were one of these first companies to put their label on these BBs from another OEM manufacturer, which many other companies have followed suit in. If you think it's just a coincidence that Guarder, Javelin and WE only offer .36 40 and 43 in green, orange and black; then you've clearly lost all your marbles. Just look at the links below for confirmation on this. The truth is there are only about 5 real manufacturers of BBs in Taiwan. G&G, KWA, ICS and HFC are known BB manufacturers. It's still not entirely clear whether SRC is making BBs rebranded TSD Tactical, or some other factory that was using the name Stealth. There may be a couple of others whose names would not be recognized in the USA, but that's about it on that island. Sometimes the distributors themselves don't even know the exact plant the BBs originally came from. http://www.airsoftglobal.com/index.php?cPa...mp;filter_id=19 http://www.airsoftglobal.com/product_info....roducts_id=9735 http://www.airsoftglobal.com/product_info....roducts_id=9734 http://www.airsoftglobal.com/product_info....roducts_id=9736 http://www.airsoft-unlimited.net/osc/produ...products_id=765 http://www.airsoft-unlimited.net/osc/produ...products_id=766 |
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Feb 26 2010, 12:48 AM
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ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 1,626 Joined: 10-January 08 From: Boston area Member No.: 35,467 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 6 (100%) Add Feedback for yee245 |
The vast majority of these BBs are nothing more than rebrands. The BB Bastage brand in Canada is the same brand as Madbull, Javelin, Guarder, WE and others labeled from this OEM manufacturer. Most people know that "Madbull" was the original company who started selling the heavy weight sniper BBs from Taiwan last year. Everyone knows they only made the .36 in green, the .40 in orange, and the .43 in black - and none of these in white colors. The truth is they were one of these first companies to put their label on these BBs from another OEM manufacturer, which many other companies have followed suit in. If you think it's just a coincidence that Guarder, Javelin and WE only offer .36 40 and 43 in green, orange and black; then you've clearly lost all your marbles. Just look at the links below for confirmation on this. Vanaras is another of those that are rebranded in the .40g and .43g weights: http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3783 http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3784 Their .36g BBs are not the same though (http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=3037), but are black in color, and if I recall, they were available before the green/tan/black .36/.40/.43 BBs came out. From what I've read, it seems as if there may be different batches that each company has, since it would seem to make sense that if the BBs are coming from the same factory, they should all have the same consistency and/or performance, but they apparently don't and some do significantly better than others. It could have just been a fluke, though. |
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Feb 26 2010, 12:57 PM
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![]() ASF Citizen Group: Member Posts: 220 Joined: 6-August 09 From: About to flank you :) Member No.: 50,695 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Artoo |
I did a quick, skirmish/practical-style test a couple of weeks ago with 3 brands: KSC, Airsoft Elite and BB King. All weights were .25 grams. The AEG used shoots ~300 fps with .25's, King Arms chamber, KWA 2G bucking and Prommy 363mm barrel.
The following is the observations made by me and my teammates. KSC had more overall range (not effective mind you) than the other two brands. This probably had to do with the fact that I was able to use more hop-up with them. Not sure if they are heavier than stated, or if this was for some other reason. AE/BB King had very similar performance from a practical shooting perspective (not bench shooting). Both had excellent effective range with better groupings (near the end of their trajectory) than the KSC. I will be testing .30's (KSC/BB King) in the near future after I upgrade my M4. |
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Mar 1 2010, 05:33 PM
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ASF Immigrant Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: 1-March 10 From: Refugio Tx Member No.: 55,380 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Biggy |
TSD and Goldenballs for my team only.
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Mar 4 2010, 04:37 PM
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ASF Citizen ![]() Group: ASF Sponsor Posts: 152 Joined: 12-January 10 Member No.: 54,215 Your Temperament Score? Trader Rating: 0 (0%) Add Feedback for Airsoft Unlimited |
What do you know - King Arms is now "making" BBs. And... if it's not the strangest thing I've ever seen, their .36 40 and 43 are only available in green, orange and black respectively. Is that not the most odd thing in the whole world - take a look
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