After receiving at least 3 Pm's a day regarding the bar-10 and deleting countless messages to make room for the next dump I have devised a solution... (Don't get me wrong I love helping you out)

Bar-10 FAQ-

SHOULD I BUY THE BAR 10 / A. YES

1. What FPS does the bar-10 shoot out of the box? / A. 400 FPS
2. What is it's stock like? / A. It has a synthetic rubberized stock with great grip (A one of a kind)
3. How do I make mine shoot 500 FPS for free? / A. http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=35488.0
4. What aftermarket upgrades should I buy? / A. http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/2008-Vsr-10-Upgrade-Guide-t97319.html
5. How do I clean my bar-10? / A. http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=49680.0
6. What is the outer barrel like? / A. It has a full metal receiver and tapered outer barrel
7. How do I install the mag catch? / A. http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=2493
8. What kind of hop up does it have? / A. One of the best available, a direct copy of the VSR-10's V-hop design
9. How do I perform even more DIY mods? / A. http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Jg-Bar-10-Mods-Explanatio-t102219.html
10. How do I paint my bar-10 (do I have to sand it)? / A. http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Digicamo-Rifle-t97482.html
11. Why should I buy the bar-10? / A. http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Compilation-Important-J-t99070.html
12. How do I foam the stock? / A. http://www.airsoftretreat.com/reviews/show...=216&cat=49
13. Where can I see EdGI parts? / A. http://edgicustom.blogspot.com/
14. How can I buy EdGI parts? / A. Through the Pm system on ASF and ASR
15. If I have a question where do I ask it? / A. http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Official-Ninja-clone-Sn-t101176.html
17. What is the stock spring rate? / A. Vicinity of 120-130 (Credit of Wongton)
18. Where chould I buy the bar-10? / A. Airsoftgi.com is the most reliable and cost effective site (Wongton)
19. What upgrades will work with the bar-10? / A. The bar-10 is compatible with TM Vsr-10 upgrade parts
If you have a question ask it in the thread listed above and I will add it to the list if it is relevant!

This post has been edited by snipershot: Mar 12 2008, 09:01 PM

*Gives cookie for being the #2 BAR 10 guru (sorry, but TCF paved the way)

Hint for custom member title....

Seriously though, this is excellent, and I have found your guides to be both simple, and full of information. You are truley contributing to the Airsoft Community, and you should know it. Even though not all of the information is yours, having it in one place is helpful.

Chris

I have seen a non stop flow of confusion lol, I wouldn't be posting this if it wasn't for TCF. Some of these are his and I am glad that his legend will live on.

Thanks TCF and Chris :)

16. What is the stock spring? /A. About M120 or M130 (I think)
17. Where can I buy a bar-10? /A. airsoftgi.com, airsoftatlanta.com, pointact.com

Just be glad you're only getting around 3 PM's a day. Try 100 and you'll get an idea of what I deal with each day.

Thanks for the suggestion, your up there!

Just a testament to the startling amount of new players interested in the sniper role...You're quite the trooper!

Good thread, thanks for posting.

Thank the good Lord in Heaven for TCF and Snipershot

Hey, great topic. Lots O' Great info.

I don't mind it either but after getting 3-5 a day plus responses so 10 asking the same thing I wanted to fix it...

should you add like

Is the jg bar compatible with the tm vsr 10?

The free mods aren't worth 500 fps. The number was a one-off done on a gun without a broken in spring.

It will shoot 460 if you cut the airbrake however if you do the mods listed in my guide you will be pushing 500+

Not true actually. The average is 470 or so with full mods. The max I've PERSONALLY seen is 520. That's out of 127 rifles so far. But most of them will get around 470, and not much higher. You'll have to do a number of things, none of which I've posted so far (and aren't in snipershot's links) to get 500+ fps on average. I'll get around to updating that eventually, but for now, just PM me if you need more details.

What about teflon taping the cylinder head threads, tapered nozzle tip, and the before the barrel cutout do it creates a tight seal? Have you done this? I also put in a new O-ring and lubed it, that's probably why I'm shooting upwards of 500...

As I said, with FULL mods, including a few you probably haven't heard of, most of them don't get more than 470, even with tightbore. Some do, some don't. It depends on a number of different things.

Pm sent,

Rather your up there now as well...

Can we get this stickied?

I want to know how to connect the rail to it and connect the scope to that, because I am not sure if mine came with the proper screws. (I ordered the scope package on airsoftgi)


EDIT: I just hot-glued part of the rail on, so I hope that will make it stay.

EDIT EDIT: Didn't work.

This post has been edited by zebigmonst3r: Mar 29 2008, 11:52 PM

I have a question... G-Spec or normal Bar-10? Im looking for accuracy more than anything.

StealthySniper, get the normal bar-10. The only difference between the two is that the g-spec has a mock silencer and is a tad bit shorter. The difference in accuracy should be minute, but the normal bar-10 should have a bit better accuracy because its longer (but barely).

If I have a stock Bar-10, would a DBC 6.01 tightbore barrel and a Nineball bucking(please link me) be good first upgrades? I am also doing all the DIY mods. If there is a better barrel(for the same price) or hopup I could get, please link me.

FireFly bucking will be better than the 9ball.

I read Chris' little write up on the Firefly, so now I have doubts. Any reason why 9ball is worse than FF? And can you recomend me a TB?

Actually the nineball performs better than the firefly IN THE BAR-10. The same is not true for the vsr however. I recommend an EdGI 6.00 megatight and nineball, best setup you can buy at the moment!

How much is the EdGI 6.00 megatight, and can you link me to both the TB and 9B?

This just in: BAR-10's are being discontinued for copyright violations. TM sued JG successfully, and JG is no longer going to be producing BAR-10's. A recall is being contemplated.

This post has been edited by The Crimson Falcon: Apr 1 2008, 09:10 PM

haha got me. thought jg bar really was discontinued.

This post has been edited by wooch: Apr 2 2008, 12:28 AM

Ok I've noticed alot more bar-10 questions being asked since this thread has been lost in the deep depths of page 5 in ASF, so bumparooni...

One of the few threads I am bumping due to the uprising of bar-10 question threads...

Alright, this thing REALLY needs to be pinned. I'm getting slightly peeved at the hundreds of BAR-10 posts per day.

Hello,

First of all thank you. all the threads and reply links everything has been such a big help to me on learning about my new airsoft rifle.

Now I have read often that the stock screws that come with the gun are prone to stripping. does anyone know what size these screws are. the 2 screws for the stock and the 4 for the scope mount?

sorry if this isn't helpful but...

have you noticed how everybody just loves there bar 10, but if it was so great why is there hundreds of posts everyday on how to fix this and that with the it?
in my opinion get a tm vsr, you'll be alot happier and you wont have to say when somebody asks you what gun you have, "a clone sniper", then walk away fast.

(proud owner of a tm vsr)

There is a topic going on discussing that very same point, my friend.

Chris

Thanks m8!!!! This topic was really helpful!!! I'm seriously thinking of getting this rifle!!!
Great Post!!!!

I have a question.

If I have a JG Bar-10 with a 9ball bucking, shortened airbrake (if this applys), AREO hopup chamber NEO, and an EdGI kit with a 6.00m TB, what kind of range can I expect (8/10 hits)?

Thanks

This post has been edited by StealthySniper: Jun 13 2008, 07:15 PM

The EdGI piston doesn't have an airbrake but rather a teflon cup which seals AMAZINGLY. I just got mine and you can hold your thumb over the cylinder hed for days and it won't lose any compression ;)

You should expect 250 10/10 and 300 hit or miss...

Okay, thanks!

EDIT: What are sears and how do I replace them? And if I were to get this package, would a Laylax cylander head be a good addition?

This post has been edited by StealthySniper: Jun 14 2008, 09:11 AM

EdGI's head might be the better choice because it is made to work with the rest of the kit in harmony ;)
Sears are the metal peices in the trigger box that catch the piston when you pull back the cylinder. Take a look at the VSR dissasembly guide by RPC in the VSR section

Also I got confirmation from Bnoji that the actual cup is made from eurathene and the ring in the back is made from teflon so that it glides smoothly, Great parts ;)

BTW: I just chrono'ed my EdGI kit today and got 590-588 with sp02, :D

So I am assuming an EdGI kit with 6.00m TB, an EdGI cylander head, and a 9ball bucking would be great first upgrades?

Also, what do I do if I wan't to add a Zero Trigger in the future?

I would say go with a KA instead of nineball, and if you want to add a ZT in the future than put it in :P

I've already installed a 9ball bucking, should I trash it or will it do? The reason I asked about the ZT is because I thought the EdGI kit came with a piston, and if you have a ZT don't you have to use the orange piston?

Yes you have to use the orange piston in but there is no need for ZT, and the KA is the same as the nineball only cheaper but some people suspect it to be better so we'll see when I get mine ;P

So an EdGI kit with 6.00m tb, 9ball bucking, and an EdGI cylander head are good first upgrades..?

:D

Which should I buy first, the upgrade kit or tb? Will I need to buy a Laylax spring guide?

EDIT: New questions: Is there suposed to be a third screw towards the front of the Bar-10 (like where the barrel and stock meet)? I see a hole in the stock and hole in the outer barrel for a screw but I'm not sure.... I only recall having 2 screws in the stock. Also, is it possible for the mag catch to come apart while the gun is assembled? Finally, I opened up the bolt today for no apparent reason, and as I put the bolt back into its place (like returning the bolt), a white ring fell out of the place where the bolt is supposed to return to. I see one identical ring in the place where you put the bolt but I don't know where this one goes. Help?

This post has been edited by StealthySniper: Jun 15 2008, 03:33 PM

After you put the bolt back into the assembly the ring goes over the top of it and then you slide the barrel onto that.

There are only 2 screws required to remove the gun from the stock.

The mag catch shouldnt come apart while the gun is assembled unless, well, you put it in wrong in the first place.

Thank you! The reason I asked about the mag catch is because it looks like anything could set it off...

This post has been edited by StealthySniper: Jun 16 2008, 12:17 PM

how long are edgi's sears supposed to stand up to that spring because isnt that the equivilant of the m170

Dunno what FPS you'll get with the m170, the Sp02 if maximized is up to 640FPS while the sp01 is 550FPS
but only advertise as 585 and 525 average.

The sears is different from any available in the market. There is no weakess link on the design. It is not the most beautifull in terms of the looks but the most durable since they are made from tools steel and hardened to resist wear and tear.

It will be the last one that will break in an upgraded gun or not at all.

Bottom line is, Ben and I are here for the support.

Ed

This post has been edited by EdGI: Jun 16 2008, 08:47 PM

cool thanks cause I have been thinking about whether to get the spo2 for the power but I didnt want the sears to brake as my bar 10's sears already broke in about 4000 shots

I'm getting 590+ out of an sp01, most likely more now though because everything is sealed airtight, EdGI's products, the way to go ;P

I am looking to upgrade my JG BAR-10. What is an estimate of how much the upgrade set StealthySniper was talking about would cost, including the bucking and EdGI kit?