So I have read countless posts about the TM Hi-capa the WE, and all other brands. I however would like to collect all this info into one spot. I will start with what I have read and my few questions and I am hopefull AOE will lend his vast knowledge to this thread.

To start: TM has the 4.3 and 5.1 versions
They are made of ABS plastic and therefore are not ment to use co2 because it will wear down the slide catch.
The TM parts are interchangable with WE
WE guns are all metal and come in Baby, Dragon, and Regular versions
WE makes the co2 mags and regular mags
WE slides were to heavy for regular green gas because they were metal and needed co2 to cycle properly, now they make Dragon style slides lighter to cycle easyer.
WE has problems with its internals and needs to be repaired.

So my question is is co2 better than green gas or is it worth it, second which gun needs less matinance ie slipping disks or whatever it is, and third which one do you like better if any (I assume you like them or you wouldn't click on this thread)?

A thanks to all who post and sorry for any repetitiveness

hey all

ok I got some piccies back from WGC

they are on :

http://www.ifyouask.com/gallery/v/Airsoft/dragon

here is one of them :



seems that you have to drill holes in the frame

I asked them if they will offer the drilling service and I'm waiting for feedback

regards

Raj

Everyone's talking about WEs. No TM Hi capas here? I have shot the TM 4.3 and 5.1 and overall, I feel that the TM 5.1 is either on par or better than the 4.3 in many aspects. Also, the 5.1 has abit more upgrades for it than its younger brother.

The wo main differences between the 5.1 & 4.3

1. Trigger pull is not as smooth as the 4.3. Is it because of the longer trigger, or slightly different design? There seems to be a very evident biting point for the 5.1 trigger, unlike the 4.3. This makes me unable to shoot the 5.1 as rapidly as the 4.3. What do you all think? Is there really such a problem or was my 5.1 faulty? My friend who also has the 5.1 said that his trigger pull is relatively smooth. if somebody can clear me up on this issue ill be grateful. Because I sold off my 5.1 and now if this problem is actually my own 5.1's own isolated issue, Ill definitely swap my 4.3 for another 5.1.

2. The 4.3 has a smaller profile, bob tail, slide length, etc. which is better for manuverability and not as cumbersome for some ppl.

Overall, I think the 5.1 is a much better sidearm than the 4.3. The 5.1 has adjustable rear sight too! With the 4.3 you can only adjust hop up. And 5.1 can install the meat basher heheh. Plus other small advantages.

I would suggest keep looking for a different rail. I know they are out there and require no drilling. You might have to search under real steel 1911 mount. Good luck.

if anyone knows of a scope mount that will fit the WE dragon range and also a threaded barrel for silencer attachment, please let me know

:)

Has anyone run into safety lever issues with these guns? I have a AE 5.1 that I am working on that the 2 piece safety lever is loose on the right (off) side. The right side is somewhat loose, and seems to be bending the triangular piece that it cams onto on the left side.

Anyone else run into this?

Has anyone tried a real steel replacement ambi safety on this???

TIA!

I have the same EXACT issue and I also have the AE 5.1k. It's not my top prioity list of stuff to fix but I'll look into it after I have done with the piston mod.

can someone point me in the direction of a speed loader for my hicapa mags?
or do your really have to load one at a time?

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....roducts_id=2036

Well ive got one like that, not the TM one, and it doesnt work too well. The attachment is cheesy and it would work better if I had 3 hands.

Although I did notice if I pull the spring all the way down, the opening in the mag gets wider and I can load the bbs with ease through the bottom.

This post has been edited by primussucks: Apr 13 2006, 10:18 AM

Id like to know about the magazine vairants.

I know there is the:

5.1 Magazine: 31 rd.
5.1 CO2 Magazine: 36 rd.
3.8 Magazine: 25 rd.

Will 5.1 magazines work in the 3.8 Baby?
Will they stick out of the bottom slightly (any picutres of this?), and same for the 5.1 CO2 magazine.

How many shots can be gotten off 1 of those cylinders of CO2 in the CO2 magazine?
How many shots can be gotten of a full 5.1 mag filled with propane/green gas? A 3.8 (I think they hold less gas)

Someone posted pics of 3.8 babys and I wanted to know if there were different configurations for the types of grip?



This is the ported barrel with the pattern grip - does it sell like this or did they just swap?

That is the way it is made by WE.

my friend had gotten the baby a few weeks ago with a spare c02 5.1 mag. the baby can take any mag because its the smallest gun of all the WE Hi Capas. the c02 mag did stick out pretty far. but I wouldnt worry about it, it is well worth it. I do believe they make 2 different styles too, they have different designs on the grip. my friend usually got 2 or 2.5 clips full with the 5.1 c02 mag with one cylinder. (about 72-90 shots).

There are total of 8 different Baby HiCapa... I only posted the first four in the same thread. The other 4 are all silver color and I'll post them shortly.

Anyone else had BB's just roll out the barrel? Mine will shoot the first shot, and then on the BB's will just roll out the barrel. I checked my hopup, and it being loose isn't the problem.

If you bb is rolling out of the barrel than 99% is your hopup got a problem.

I just had an issue with BBs rolling out the barrell. I have found the problem and might have a fix for it, but I havent done enough testing to know if it works good enough.

But the issue was that the small valve looking thing inside of the loading nozzle, was getting stuck closed, so no air was getting to the barrell but only operating the block back action.

This was happening with the "upgraded PGC Loading Nozzle" and the Shooters Design aluminum piston head, I also have the 150% recoil springs installed. When I put the stock parts on it doesnt happen as much.

The fix that I did was to find a washer of sorts that fits around the valve part so that it is a little bit wider, and wont get stuck in the hole of the loading nozzle, it took a little dremel work to make it fit tight enough so that it wasnt bouncing around inside the gun. Ive fired a few mags through with fairly good results, but im not sure its a permanat fix yet.

Anyone else have this problem?

more questions from me
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?I...cat_RCC%20Parts


this looks a whoooole lot like the part I just put a washer around( see my post above) but is it the same on the 226 as it is on the hi capa?

ok so I got a WE hi-capa K from jungletoy.. gun looks good however it seems to be having issues. When shooting I get off 6-7 shots the first 2 shots I get sprayed by a little gas on my hand and arm. Then the gun starts to fire with no bb's coming out which then makes the mag releases all the gas or the hammer only cocks back half way. The mag is ice cold and temp of my garage is about 60 degrees. The slide never locks back when empty even if I put in only like 3 bb's. If anyone knows what is going on that would be great.

Your blow back chamber is leaking gas and it doesn't have a good seal.

I am not 100% sure will this work but take the slide off and check under the chamber. There is a nozzle that can slide forward. Underneath is a screw and check if it's loose. Tighten it, put it back and try firing again.

I removed the slide and lubed the blowback chamber and oring. Still when I shoot 7-10 shots ( not rapid firing) some are blanks ( slide didnt go back far enough to load the bb )and I hear a hissss then the hammer is half way back. When I had the slide off I checked and the sliding operation seems to bind up a little also that little screw was tight.

Do you have a different mag you can try?! Need to know if the problem coming from the mag or the slide.

I do not have another mag.. I wish I would have bought another though. Is there anyway I can look at the mag I have to vierify correct operation.

ALRIGHT !!! I got it working good now.. Polished the points where the slide contacts the frame, put in a weaker spring ( actually 2 because I couldnt find a 5 inch spring at hardware store ) and lubed the hell out of it.. When I shoot now there is good power for at least 15 shots and the slide locks back on last shot.. The weaker spring I think is what did it but now it doesnt feel as solid when the slide comes back but I guess I can live with that considering its working better now.. I may put a spacer on the spring because it was just a hair shorter.. Can I buy a slightly weaker spring than stock.. I know alot of people are putting in stiffer springs but I cant imagine the gun working correctly.

***UPDATE***

I cut 5-6 coils off of the stock recoil spring and streched it just a little bit then I reassembled the gun.. I can get about 40 shots on a 5 second mag fill.. If I rapid fire I can only get about 30 and the slide will lock back on last shot.. With the weaker stock spring installed it seems to kick ALOT harder.

This post has been edited by zoomin0074: Apr 29 2006, 04:42 PM

On my dragon, Im not getting full blow back, unless I push up on the mag with my left hand, it happens with all three of my mags, anyone else having this issue?
anyone got a fix for it?

Yeah, if anyone else is having that problem, please tell me because thats the coolest part of this gun, lol.

Having more issues with this gun.. Now it appears that the mag is leaking from the back where the hammer hits it.. Anyone know how to fix it.. I have already sprayed silicone lube on it ( thats how I found the leak ). It doesnt leak at first, but if I shoot it a couple of times it starts to leak.. Is there a special tool to unscrew that valve? If anyone has diagrams of the mag or pictures of disassembling it that would be great.

Hey guys, I also have a question on the dragon. I am getting it for 180 with shipping from airsplat. This includes 2 cans of green, a c02 mag, and shipping. However, upon reviewing the picture from airsplat, what is that brown thing on the grip? Its FUGLY! Here is the link. http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GP-WE-HiCapa-DA.htm

Do you think it is removable?

For the love of /THOU SHALT NOT USE MY NAME IN VAIN/ why do people still buy from airsplat. Have you not seen all the airsplat reviews floating around the forums? Why would you even risk it?

To address your post, the thing on the grip is actually chrome and it's a magwell shroud (or something like that) and yes it is removable.

Airsplat has not proved me wrong... I can't find the c02 mag anywhere else, so thats why I am buying from airsplat. Also... They have it for only 110. Can anyone find a site that has it for under 120 and sells the c02 mag?

Nevermind, I found it from "Speedy Toys" for 130 and they sold the mag aswell. However, I see that speedy toys has two models. The WE Silver Dragon Metal 1911 Airsoft and the Custom Slide version. I put both pictures up in a microsoft document and they look the same to me, what is the diference though?

Scroll all the way to very bottom for the two versions.
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/category.asp?catid=2

Custom Slide:
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=508&catid=2
Normal Version:
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=366&catid=2

C02 Mag:
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=319&catid=10
Normal Mag:
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=318&catid=10


EDIT:Whoa, wait! Now I see they have a "Ported Slide" Whats that?!?! Here is the link...
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=384&catid=2

This post has been edited by Heaven'sSniper: May 3 2006, 12:34 PM

The difference you can see in the stationary part of the slide at the front where the sight is, one has round holes, the other has oval shaped holes on the top of it behind the sight, its just for looks nothing more.

The third pic you posted looks like its the same as round hole version.

Ohhh I see! I like the round hole/ported slide better. Thanks!

so some clarification here
these guns have no problem using green gas
more specifically the dragons?
and shoot around 315 FPS

Yes, they all shoot around 315 FPS, and they all are built for green gas.

Does anyone have any experience with propane in the cold? Does it hold up better in the cold than green gas?

This post has been edited by Heaven'sSniper: May 4 2006, 02:56 PM

My mag wont fill with ANY gas. It started out as a normal little leak. I added some silicone oil but it kept getting worse. I think think the oring inside is gone because there is NO seal what so ever. Now, when I try to fill it...propane just flies all over the place and nothing gets into the mag. What can I do? thanks!

Another thing, don't buy WE grips from overseas. The 2 I've owned have both cracked on me.

Alright, thats good to know.

Also, do you guys reccomend buying a metal slide for the dragon?

I believe the whole WE line is already full metal
so I think they already have a metal slide

I thought so also, but then people were saying how much a metal slide would help? Im CoNfUsEd!

People where? They might be talking about the Marui Hi-Capa.