Oh, maybe. Anyway, do you guys think this is a good deal?

http://www.evike.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv...ode=PKG_GP_WEV5

btw, the brown thing is a reflection haha
the bottom is chrome..........thats how shiny it is

oops slow comp load.......double posted

This post has been edited by Satanicsanta090: May 7 2006, 04:18 PM

Alright, now I am starting to hear bad things about the WE Dragon in the winter... Can anyone give some information on this things performance in the cold?

There pretty bad in the cold, most WE guns are. Unless you shoot very slowly you will have some issues.


Also I have a question on my mag.My mag wont fill with ANY gas. It started out as a normal little leak. I added some silicone oil but it kept getting worse. I think think the oring inside is gone because there is NO seal what so ever. Now, when I try to fill it...propane just flies all over the place and nothing gets into the mag. What can I do? thanks!

does anyone know if the tm or we hi caps will shoot through only one side of a pop can? if you have one of the hi caps, could you take some time whenever and just shoot one bb at point blank into the can, and tell me what happens. at my wars I go to the rule is that the fps is "too high" if it goes through both sides, no exceptions. the limit isnt that bad seeing as the wars are cqb, and id rather not be shot with an upgraded SAW at point blank range.

thanks (in advance

Tested it for you last night, my dragon with 150% springs, Steel Piston head, PGC loading Nozzel and Gaurder High flow Valve went throw one side and put a tear in the other side.
This was done in my basement at about 60 degrees, in warmer weather I think it will go through both sides, plus the gun isnt working perfect, my bone stock beat to crap, non dragon only goes through one side, and dents the other a little.

I don't really know anything about gas guns. does that mean that your dragon shoots faster than stock?

If the o-ring is gone you'll need to replace it. Get a replacement Valve. or try our luck at hardware store for a 0-ring. Otherwise, there isn't much you can do about it.






His dragon shoot harder than stock because it's got a stronger hammer springs and hi flow valve.

Well my gun "should" shoot pretty hard, but it doesnt work right, I guess thats what happens when you fiddle with stuff lol.

Ive been poishing this oiling that, sanding this, takeing apart putting together trying differnt parts, new orings, differnt mags, differnt bbs, warming up mags, and nothing seems to work. One BB at a time it shoots good, but its like a springer, I have to cock it by hand.

One issue im having is that my loading nozzle doesnt seem to be springing back, it gets stuck on the hop up rubber, then as the slide recoils back the loading nozzle sticks in the inner barrel which causes two things to happen, first the loading nozzle spring gets compressed so much that it sticks and the nozzle doesnt return to its starting position, and second because the nozzle isnt going all the way back, its not loading the next bb into the chamber.

I just happen to have two nozzle springs so I tried cutting a piece of one and putting that in there as well as the full size but it doesnt seem to be helping. I hope to get to a hardware store and maybe pick up a little bit stiffer spring.

The truth is.. all GAS gun perform poorly on cold temperture. The concept is quite simple. Heat will expand gas and cause higher pressure. Cold will do just the opposit. So in winter, your gas gun will loose pressure and not able to shoot as well. I use a Western Arms Xcelerator fully upgraded to light weight aluminum slide and it's shooting 330 fps in normal room temperture. I took it out for a night game, I couldn't even empty the entire mag before all the gas in release. It was about 50 degree and the mag is ice cold.

As for WE guns. They are all metal. It's even more heavy than my WA Xcelerator. In order for a gas gun to release enough engergy to move the slide back plus push the the BBS out of the chamber need a lot of pressure. If you have one of the older model like Government 1911, M and K the slide is quite heavy. Dragon is a little better. So you can imagine they will have sluggish performance in the cold.

However, one of the advantage of WE is their Co2 Mag. You can use it in cooler weather to compensate the performance. In normal Room Temperture, Co2 mag will increase the FPS from 300-310 (Green) to 340-350(co2). Also, I notice Co2 have less cool down affect.

so... if you want to use the Dragon in cooler temperture. Use the Co2 mag.

Alright, yes, you are right. All gas guns perform "unsatisfactory" in the winter to say the least. I also know about the heat and the cold and stuff, trust me I am not stuipid. However, I also have heard that the Dragon is a bad gun for a cool climate. I have heard down to only 7 shots with a full fill of gas in 32*. As you will know, New Hampshire just is not the place for this gun.

I am looking into an Infinity 6 Inch instead. I have heard some bad things about the WE and I am convinced that it is not the gun for me. The WA with the tightbore barrel and all its other nice qualities suites me better.

This post has been edited by Heaven'sSniper: May 10 2006, 04:11 PM

don't you mean WA?

We would all be buying the WA guns if we were made of money. I would like to have an Expert 5in, but the with the price of mags and the gun itself I couldnt afford it, with all my other toys.

But these WE guns give me something to tinker with, one day ill get a WA but not in the near future.

This post has been edited by primussucks: May 10 2006, 04:07 PM

Ah, sorry, I meant WA. Dude, check out WGC Shop, they are selling the 5 inch for 130 and the 6 inch for onlt 142! Mags are still pricey and out of stock, but thats what BIRTHDAYS ARE FOR! Lol, just kidding, but still, check those babys out. Silver only with red for the 5 inch, and only red/purple/green for 6inch.

That's pretty low temperture. you might want to look into TM AEP guns. No blow back but at least they work great. Or get a MP5K.

Nah, I am getting this gun BECAUSE of blowback. Does anyone have information on the WGC Shop? Is it reliable?

Well.. sorry I haven't keep up to date with the tread. WE have release a few more Baby Hicapa in Silver. couple months ago. It's starting to show up here in US.











Also... this is GREAT news.

WE have just release 3 more new Hicapa in 4.3 format. And guess what. They have lighten the weight on the slide. Now using Alumimium.
I'll have more pictures coming.

Oh... and one more picture of the 7" Dragon.


This post has been edited by Allizard: May 12 2006, 12:24 PM

If the 4.3 is really aluminum then we could anodize it, and everyone knows anodizing is fun.

Heres the 4.3 looks good

This post has been edited by primussucks: May 16 2006, 09:03 AM

does a SAS KIT fit a WE hi capa? helpp please!!! ;/

SAS kit is built for the TM HiCapa. WE is base on the TM HiCapa design so it's good chance the SAS kit will fit. But take note. None of the WE / TM Hicapa have re-drilled holes on the bottom rail so you'll have to drill metal instead of TM Plastic.

Actually the TM hicapa is just a thin layer of metal where the hole is suppose to be, also, TM supplies a punch with the HICAPA to punch through the holes. The frame is also metal, not plastic.

Will the CO2 mags for the WEs fit their 3.8'' (Baby) line-up?

This post has been edited by Hark: May 18 2006, 09:00 PM

I think they will fit, but the magazine will stick out like crazy.

A picture speaks a thousand words...

Ohh, I love it! Jeez, its a wonder that that magazine even stays in there...

Jeez...

First review on the WE 4.3...

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...78&#entry796878

Was just going to post that. :) For those without an Arnie's account.

This post has been edited by davedawg123: May 31 2006, 01:28 PM

Impressive article, and I have been wondering when they would finnally emerge. However, the way that guy put it, I have nothing to look forward too... Aww poo...

You have nothing to look forward to? Do you mean I covered too much, or were you expecting something more?

No no no... The review was fine. However, I just was kind of hoping the WE would perform the same as the TM. I guess that was hoping for too much, though.

If you mean gas usage, then yeah, I agree. Like I said though, I'll do some more tests later.

I have an AB Dragon and the only issue I had with it failing was the front sight. It appears to be glued on, but a little bit of Gurilla Glue fixed that real quick. The other night when I was playing, I took my AB out of my hip holster and noticed that the front sight was still in my holster.

That is happening to my WA Infinity. I am just going to put some blue threadlocker on it though.

I didn't think I'd start a new thread for this, but I've got some questions.

I caved in and bought a WE Hi-Capa 5.1 Dragon with my Comfirmation money. I know it's probably not the best GBB you can find, but I figure it's a start.

-Anything wrong mechanically with the gun?
-The website I ordered from seems to imply it comes with 2 magazines out of the box, is this true?
-I'm planning on playing a round or two with just this pistol, do you think it will hold up againsts TM AEGs?

anybody know if they will be making a aluminum slide for the 5.1 k model? I would like to get one...

First post, Newbie to airsoft but not airguns (shot 10M competition air pistol for years) or real steel (8 years in the Army). Just received a TM Hi Cappa to use for IPSC practice. Got it from PowerEdge, price was great and shipping was fast and a lot cheaper than getting it from HK (plus no customs issues). Decided on the TM after reading many posts on many forums. After 2 days of shooting, I am very happy with the decision. The workmanship is great and the accuracy is fantastic. The plastic slide really doesn't bother me at all. I do not skirmish (target practice only) so external durability really isn't an issue for me.

I had originally planned on starting to upgrade this pistol almost immediately, but after sending 500 rounds downrange I'm not sure I see any need to upgrade it at this point. The only thing I will add right now is a scope rail and a red dot sight.

My only question is how do all of you TM Hi Cappa owners keep from shooting thousands of rounds per week. I will easily go through 1000 BBs/week and I will be interested to see how this pistol holds up over the next couple months.

Sciguy

Alright.. I'll try to address all the questions in one post.

Sync...
- Nothing wrong with the gun mechanically. The Dragon series is probably the best WE to date.
- I don't know which Website you brought it from but the box only contain the gun and 1 mag. Some vendor will give you a package deal.
- A good player with good aim and good tactic will hold up against a person spraying his AEG. The gun is not the issue here.

*** Should have brought it from me... hahhha ***

Zoom...
I have receive products info from WE that there will be a 5.2 with a aluminum slide. I have no idea when will be available here. The picture I saw is basically a 5.1 with a sas kit.

Sciguy...
Congratz on the TM Hicapa purchase. Both TM 5.1 and 4.3 are very good gun. I expect it to last a long time if it's taken care of. That said, these TM guns recommend using HFC 134a. If you use HFC22, it will still hold up but do expect to replace some parts in the future. The good news in, there are plenty of replacement parts of TM Hicapa.

Well, I went home the other night and noticed that the screw that holds the front site one fell out at some point. Now, I feel like an idiot, but I'm sure the hardware store will have a replacement screw. Sorry for posting that, it was my mistake. However, after polishing the slide, it does fire better. Seems to be one of the best things you can do to that gun for free.

The new thing on my shopping list....

This is the TM Hi Capa 4.3 with custom slide and M3 light. I wanted this at first, but who knows.. Custom slides just get kind of expensive.






Arnies Airsoft:
Taken off a picture thread entitled "Pictures of your 2011's." Page 7.

This is the TM Hi Capa 4.3 with M3 light. Normal slide. I am hoping to be buying this.



Taken from this review... http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpost/...2/cat/17/page/1

This post has been edited by Heaven'sSniper: Jun 3 2006, 06:20 AM