Camping: A general airsoft definition of camping would be staying in one place, or hiding untill an unaware enemy wanders by and you shoot him/her from a concealed position.


I started CALS because I am tired of people saying camping is stupid and getting mad at inncocent campers.

Even though I don't often take part in this 'strategy,' I believe that everyone has the right to camp. If you agree and want to join CALS or just want to suport CALS you can...

A. Make a sig with atleast one tent in the picture and a person (or people) the person can be doing what ever you want him/her to be doing but it has to be airsoft or camping related and the person has to be wearing bdus doesn matter what scheme

or B. Put something sayin you support CALS or that you are a member of CALS in you signiture.

There are many different ways to camp you can be the more hiding (scared of getting shot camper) or you can be the camp the flag/base and not go and hunt down the enemy or the enemy flag.

a camper generally stays near an objective if there is a flag a camper will have a position to view the flag but no one else will be able to see the camper. the great thing about camping is even if you have a lesser gun you can take out people with guns a million times better than your own. because all it takes is one good shot.

a well trained camper can find spots all over in thick bushes, rooms with only one or 2 doors, under cars, under or behind logs, and sometimes in the most obvious places like a big box near the flag.

now it is possible to camp in death matches or team death matches but it is slightly different because you don't lose if the enemy completes some objective. so if there is a flow spot that people like to go to, find a good spot to camp from and you want to face the way people will be moving and place your camping spot near a solid object like a big wall but make sure you have an escape route. in a dm/tdm the way you want to camp is wait until someone walks or runs by hold your fire until you know you can hit them and make sure your aim is good especially if you are out gunned.

the best armament for camping is a gas pistol they are small and easy to move around and aim through small spots. also having a pistol for camping is good because you can run to a camping spot faster than you could with a rifle. (Make sure when you run to a spot to control your breath while camping hard breathing can often expose your location!) if you are not a very good shot try getting an auto pistol like many of the kwa g series or a compact aeg : ,mp5k, uzi, or any of the new tm compact smgs.

I will think up more tactics soon.



Some edits by Pirate.

This post has been edited by rather: Feb 13 2006, 04:05 PM

I think, that camping is fine. If you have an objective to complete, though, I highly suggest and endorse going to finish the objective before camping for kills. But I think camping is great.

Hey, this is Mil-sim right? In the military, if you have to camp to survive, then you better do it. I agree, camping is a completely fine tactic.

well, being mil sim and all, it would be better to call this an ambush. doesn't sound as cheap when you call it what it actually is... an ambush. just my thoughts on the matter, feel free to ridicule away.

Guys just get mad because they just got out by the kid with the UHC Mp5... ...but seriouslythe younger players (10-12yrs) do it because they are nervious about playing against guys with upgraded guns. I mean all they have is a I shot per second gun while guys have guns that shoot 5-6 per second...........

The online FPS gaming term "Camper" should never be used in reference to any airsoft event. It does not apply. The reason "campers" are frowned apon in online gaming is because bad gamers who take too many chances and die early are impatient and think the rest of those who are playing should do something stupid so the round will re-start, thus allowing them to play badly again, die early again, and complain about the game round taking to long again.... the vicious circle never ends.

There should be no such problem in airsoft, and if there is... rather than calling someone a "camper" for playing realisticly or intelligently to the scenario or skirmish.... you should learn not to get yourself killed so soon. I know many gamers become airsofters, because they think "Hey its like Counter Strike except REAL".. well... I am sorry, its NOT like Counter Strike. If you don't like "campers", either get over it, become a better player or go back to Counter Strike.

There is no such thing as "Camping" in airsoft, there is only tactics and mission discipline.

so I should edit everything and call it abushing is a legitimate strategy?

the funny thing is I typed this up at midnight one night, and I don't often camp because I like to be out and helping get the objective.
and there is no getting around camping I could also make a guide to counter camping which could also be counter ambushing.

if you are good you wont have a problem with camping because you will know all of your surrounding and pay attention.

and camping and ambushing are basicly the same thing you wait until your unaware enemy is easily shot but
when I made this camping sounded alot better than ambushing is a legitimate strategy and the picture I made wouldne be nearly as funny.

also where I play mostly is a paintball field that allows airsoft so we get some campers.

This post has been edited by rather: Feb 16 2006, 12:01 AM

I concur with BP, nice points.

so please....don't be such sore losers...many airsoft enthusists won't take kindly to people who just whine and complain because they are too slow to relize airsoft takes tactics, patience and ____filll in the black please...I ran outta steam.....*brain fart*

oh and it would also be like mil sim such as if you are playing a terrorist vs (some other military) terrorists know they cant out gun (seals ranger what ever) so they use their knowlege of the land to ambush the (seals ranger what ever) camping was just a general term because of the signiture I made (the image at the bottom)

you are right bp though it is a counter strike gaming term and it is frowned upon.

I really don't mind that much as long as they don't stay in one spot for the entire game. (Never played a game with a true sniper so I have no experience in that way) Now lets say that you are walking along some treelines and you see an opposing player now you see that he's coming toward you or atleast that he is moving to a better spot for you to take your shot now would that be considered an ambush (camper) attack. From the attacking point of view it was a fair shot. Now for the opposing player that wasn't aware that he was watched it will seem that the player was doing a camper move. But all you can do is just get over it and just hope that the next game the tables have turned. Anyways I still prefer the all out front attack scenes. The excitment of BBs flying left and right. they're the best!

ok yea, I see what you're saying now. AALS wouldn't sound as good nor have such a clever sig. I was just making sure that people weren't getting the wrong idea of what you were saying because like others have said "camping" has a negative connotation where as ambush does not.

to me camping is a way of defending your flag or territory patiently

camping is all about strategy. I think that it takes more skill to be a sucessful camper, then just to spray bbs everywhere. In camping you have to ask yourself many questions:
is my hiding spot good enough?
when should I reveal my postion and fire?
do they know where I am?
are tehy flanking me?
all these questions are hard to answer when camping, so it adds difficulty to "just staying in one spot"

Camping rocks in video games AND airsoft!

IMO, camping is ok when you are defending something or you are massively outgunned by the opposition. Ambushes are only really when multiple people camp one spot, like next to or on a main route. A general rule of thumb could be that it's ok in moderation.

you can have a one person ambush.

camping is fine until both teams start doing it because then it becomes boring and new players do it because they are afraid of getting shot.

Well this thread was nearly dead...

But at the local team I've played with if a camper is out there too long then both teams gear up and go find him. It's usually like 1 on 15, hecka fun.

lol sucks for that camper, but most of the time they will get out anyways because if they aren't moving they get flanked.

In my opinion Camping is a very legitimate strategy, but only if you have the right reasons for it.

If you're a new player, your parents just bought you an AEG, Tac-Vest, BDU's, and all that stuff, and you're camping because you're afraid to get hit, that's happy. All it'll do is hurt worse. If you get out there and just play, the adrenaline takes away the pain. I can barely feel anything less than 350 fps, and more is a brief sting. That's just me, of course, but it goes to show how adrenaline dulls all the senses except for vision and hearing.


If you're an experienced player, and are camping off of INTEL, then yes, camping is perfectly fine in my eyes. You know they're coming your way, so you set up the ambush in anticipation, not fear. If you know for a FACT that the enemy is coming your way, and you set up camp BECAUSE of that, then it's a good strategy. It's the kids that don't know what they're doing that tick me off.

I've personaly never seen anything wrong with camping/ambushing. I use it alot when I play. I've rarely had anyone complain about it either. I usualy try my best to not be seen, if that means laying down behind a log in the woods and waiting for someone to walk by, so be it. Also, I find it extremely effective if you're outnumbered. Suddenly opening fire from a concealed area can quickly route a larger OpFor. Also since this is milsim, people usualy wear camo of some sort, and I find it funny when someoen does complain and they are wearing it. Camo is there to break up your human silouet, thus making you hard to spot and hit, and is generaly used to stay concealed. Also, ask youself this, if it were real combat, and you had to choose between who you would go into a battle with. Would you pick the guy willing to stand up and openly confront an enemy? or one that would be descrete, wait and take out an enemy or two by surprise?

By camping I mean that two teams are fighting against one another and neither are moving which gets annoying because then the game goes nowhere. Two camping makes the game no fun and because although it is a milsim game it is a game and the point is to have fun.

If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

The reason I don't like camping is because when everyone starts doing it then it sucks.
My fix: If no one runs past and I can't see anyone....... CHARGE.
Then again I am a newbie and would probably get shot quite quickly.
However I do follow some form of tactics. Find some cover. Hide a couple minutes.
Move to next cover. Then fire if I see anyone.

Any of you checked the date on this thread before you posted?

Ya I did but I was bored and thought maybe someone mightsee it on an off chance

I don't think you realize that necroposting is against ASF rules.

Why?

You didn't read the stickies? Necroposting is NOT allowed becuase no one wants to see a long dead thread come all the wayback to the new posts lists. Also, necroposting can be interprited as a form of rankposting.

Still don't believe me? PM a mod and ask them about it.

As a sniper, guess what I do all day! I sit, in relatively one place, for hours. Is this to be thought of as a bad strategy? Do you want the snipers on your team to be running around as if they had a SAW when only they have a bolt action rifle? I think not. "Camping" as most refer to call it is a legitimate, and absolutely necessary tactic, without it, all snipers would be hit in the first 5 minutes of a game. Thus I say camping is a legitimate strategy.


Cheers, Graham.

This post has been edited by Graham Abram: Apr 27 2007, 01:29 PM

It is not that I don't belive you. It is I just Didn't know why but thank you.

I'm brand new to the forums (this may be my first post, in fact I think it is), but I have been playing airsoft (not in competitions) for quite a while now. Personally, I fail to realize how camping can possibly be an airsoft term. In airsoft (or at least in the games I play in) we try to make it as close as we can to real war as possible. And nowadays, in real war, we don't necessarily charge out into the open and hope not to get shot. We use tactics. And a bad tactic would be to leave a desired area undefended. An ineffective tactic of defense would be to stand out in the open and hope you see the advancing enemy before he sees you. You hide and wait. This is a completely fair strategy and I'm kind of disappointed it had to be brought up in the first place.

did you read the last few posts. This is an old topic I'm not sure if you noticed but apparently you are not supposed to comment old topics. I don't understand why if you have something to say but I was told not to. But anyways, Why are you disappointed? Some people think camping is outrageous and you are being a little dramatic.

This is a tactics article. Should we realy adhere to the "no necros" policy if people still have legitimate posts to make on topic? Like this;

"Camping" is not fine in my book. "Camping" says to me that a player should be moving but isn't. I don't consider people who have something to defend campers, nor do I think snipers are 'campers'. I Do think that snipers should be moving or stalking if you prefer to call it that, if only because staying in one place keeps them from covering as much area. Now, if they were settled in a key area, that's all well and good. But too many people tend to get themselves stuck in a firefight and then fail to move at all once the shooting starts. All this is doing is stagnating the game, it's basicaly saying to the other team "I'll try play the game, but you have to expose yourself to my fire before I'll do anything". It's a way of giving yourself an advantage over others just by being more stubborn and lame than the other side. If you are in combat, you should be actively trying to kill the other guys not hunkering down, hoping the other team will walk into your fireline. Or worse; spraying downrange, which is much more common.

When you said to control your breath, it sometimes gets hard for me, because the adrenaline is at it's peak!

ok??? what are you taliking about. I had an e-mail notification and saw this. What is your point

judging by the fact that new people are commenting, this topic is undead.
so I will give my opinion. in my opinion "camping" is a cluster of two legit strategies: ambush, and sniping. I use both of those tactics so im not complaining. "camping" can also be used as psychological warfare, heres an example.

a long while ago in my first game of airsoft... I was playing on a field of high grass bordering a woods
my 2 man team was patroling for the (1 remaining) enemy. suddenly we werefired upon. we pursued him but he dissapeared. we began to search. this became the most nervewracking part of the game. I became an easy kill and the enemy one.
in my second game the same thing hapened . im so glad im not a newbie anymore.

haha that is a funny story. It must have been nerve wrecking waiting to see if you're gonna get shot at or not. And you're tactics about camping seem to be good but I don't really think camping is ambushing but more of staying in one spot and waiting for people to shoot

I find that camping is great when it is tactically feasible. But I emphasize that the feasibility of it depends wholly upon the situation. Sometimes, mobility and aggression are far better attitudes for a game- and it is up to the player to decide how they want to play. In short, if you take a camper down they've made a mistake in camping. And if you are taken out by someone who is camping appreciate that you were defeated by an opponent who made a tactically sound decision.

Sorry to say this, (lol)
I think camping (unless your a sniper) is totally unacceptable. I hate camping. I am a frequent FPS player, and I hate campers. In any game. But in Airsoft it's different. If your sitting there with a SAW, watching the enemy base, waiting for someone to walk right up to you, your an idiot. Go out there and shoot! Snipers and stealthy players are (imo) the ONLY ones who should "camp".