Okay, I've now received my newest gun for review, this time the G&G SR-16. Airsplat is bringing in the full G&G lineup, which is really good news for the airsoft community. You'll see why, but at any rate, Kent at Airsplat sent me a copy of the new SR-16 to review, and I've been anxiously awaiting my package. I want to mention that Airsplat had a pretty terrible reputation a while back, but I've been very impressed with their CS, and I would not hesitate to order from them again. The one experience I had that wasn't perfect, they actually called ME up and asked me how they can improve. That's a huge point in their favor. Okay, enough asides, let's go ahead and take a look at this new gun. Here's a beauty shot, so you know what you're looking at.



Alright, lets get to the reviewing. For clarity's sake, I'll as always give you a brief table of contents for what I'll be talking about:







I want to begin by saying that my first impression is very good. The gun looks very good and feels incredibly solid, and the attention to detail looks very good. G&G has emerged as one of the leading companies in skirmishable high-end AEG's, and to be quite honest, this gun proves why I consider Tokyo Marui to be at the lower end of high-end guns. Systema, VFC, and G&P are probably the best, with G&G and Inokatsu being the next best, and TM, CA, and STAR at the lower end of things. I might venture to toss JG in there, but that's for another story. Here's what we're looking at after opening up the box:



When I look at the various extras that are included (and what's not included, for that matter), it's clear that this gun is way better than the ACM's that I've been dealing with lately. It comes with the compulsory manual, a nice catalogue of the G&G line to drool over, a barrel wrench to remove those pesky delta rings (this is REALLY nice to have, and in my opinion, makes this gun worth buying if you are planning on dealing with a lot of AR style guns), a barrel clearing rod, the magazine, gun, and the front sight adjusting tool. Yes, that's right, this gun has an ADJUSTABLE front sight. That's a good sign for the attention to detail with this gun... It also, like other high-end guns, does not come with a battery or charger. The recommended battery for this gun is a 9.6v small-type battery, although it will work with an 8.4v.

Well, if we're planning on getting a good idea of how close this comes to the real deal, we should take a look at the real steel background...



This information has been compiled from wikipedia and world.guns.ru. SR-16 stands for Stoner Rifle 16. It was designed by Eugene Stoner, and is another addition to the AR family. It's similar to the M16, and, in this case, is a carbine version of the M16. The M16 is one of the most famous assault rifles in the world. It was introduced in the early 1960's, and is currently used by over 15 countries as the standard assault rifle. It is a lightweight, 5.56 mm caliber, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed rifle, with a rotating bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas operation. It is constructed of steel, aluminum and composite plastics. More M16's have been produced than any other type of 5.56mm caliber assault rifle.

The M16 was designed during the Vietnam War as a replacement for the venerable, but well-loved (by me) M14. An updated version, the M16A2, came into usage in the 1980's. There was also an A3 version, which differs primarily in its fire select switch. This particular rendition is manufactured by Knights Armament for one, although there may be more manufacturers. Information on this gun is rather difficult to turn up. Okay, let's go ahead and look at the appearance and feel of this gun.


The appearance of this gun is just great. It's made from muzzle to buttstock from high quality heavy duty plastic or metal, and has a serious heft to it. The receiver is made out of magnesium, and the selector switch clicks over nicely. The foregrip is made out of a thick plastic that feels as solid as can be--certainly way more solid than the plastic on the TM's that I've handled. The retractable LE 6 position stock is made out of metal, and feels very solid, and the finish on the whole gun is very superb. Attention to detail is the basic rule on this gun. Now remember earlier how I mentioned that G&G wasn't top-line in terms of high-end guns? The ONLY reason I say this is because it doesn't have realistic trademarks. In EVERY other department, including performance, these guns are superb, comparable to my Systema Personal Training Weapon. Let's go ahead and take a look at some pictures.

The stock is very solid, and can be screwed off nicely. It screws into the receiver by rotating the stock, and you can remove it by unscrewing a thin nut on the threaded part to the front of the stock.

The receiver is beautiful. It has G&G trademarks instead of real steel trademarks, which might be a downside in some books. Me, I'm interested in overall looks and performance, and this gun doesn't lose anything in that regard. The magazine well says on one side: G&G Armament, Capital of Greedy Island. I found that rather amusing (G&G is Taiwanese, so evidently Taiwan is "Greedy Island.") The selector switch markings are clearly painted and very realistic:

The left side of the mag well has the G&G logo, and says: "G&G Armament, GR16 Carbine, 6.0mm Electrical, SER 0005140." I have no idea whether all of them have the same serial number, but if they're individually serialized, that would be amazing. It's a nice touch for realism, however:



The rest of the left receiver is cleanly painted, and the selector switch markings are again very clean. In front of the selector switch, it says "Complete AEG Series, Mfg. by G&G Armament, Capital of Greedy Island."

The grip is made out of textured solid plastic, and is very comfortable to hold. Being a lefty, it's nice enough that I wouldn't dream of getting a replacement grip, because the stock grips are better than upgrade grips, which are all designed for right-handed people, plus I find it useful to be able to shoot ambidextrously.

The carry handle is also very well made, and features full metal construction. The rear sight is fully adjustable for windage and elevation, and looks much better than the TM carry handles that I've seen. It also supports a carry handle mount, or scopes like the Leapers T167 Reticle Intensified 6x scope, which is designed to fit a carry handle, although it comes with a Picatinny mount also:

The only thing I don't like about this gun is that the charging handle doesn't release the dust cover to reveal the hopup. I hear it does on other models, but not on mine, nor does it seem to support that feature, since the spring forces the cover closed, not open, and there's no latch. That was disappointing, although both the charging handle and the bolt clearing button move; they're not just molded parts or something:

The front sight is adjustable, metal, and holds a swing swivel, which moves nicely and doesn't squeak. There's a set screw underneath the swivel that allows you to remove the sight, after you've removed the sight pins.

The foregrip houses the battery, and is very nicely made out of solid plastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyq6T9z0ikw

The gas tube is nice and shiny metal, and fits into a little hole on the receiver (which was absent in many of the clones I've upgraded). The outer barrel is a one piece, three section metal barrel which feels very solid, although from the lighter weight, it's clearly mostly aluminum. The front portion is steel, the latter two are anodized aluminum. Very solid. The flashhider was a real pain to deal with, and doesn't have a set screw. Mine was incredible difficult to take off, to the point where it bent a steel allen wrench, and made me think it wasn't removable. It is, however, a 14mm CCW threaded steel flashhider, and the best way to remove it is to take a solid screwdriver and a hammer, insert in the holes, and go at it. It was a really huge pain the first time.

The barrel fits much more solidly than the Marui barrels typically do also. On the RIS models, this is even more evident as it has dual locking collars that make for a very secure fit. After screwing off the delta ring with the included tool, I discovered that the barrel is a real pain to remove also. It feels like it's really solidly in there, but there aren't any set screws. The secret to removing it the first time is to hold the barrel and put some tape on the receiver, then bang on the receiver a bit to remove the barrel. But it does come out, and is compatible with aftermarket barrels, should you want to swap front ends or something.

The foregrip also houses the battery and fuse, since the gearbox is wired to the front. If you want to install a different front end that can't hold a battery, you'll need to do some rewiring. The foregrip can support at least a 9.6v small-type, and maybe an even larger battery.

Finally, let's talk about the magazine. It's a 470 round hi-capacity magazine, which is a bit longer than the standard M-series magazine. It feeds perfectly, and winds nicely too. No complaints here. It also looks really good; it's a dark grey, and overall is very pleasant to look at. It DOESN'T come with the thermal magazine seen in some of the pictures, just to warn you. With the Star 30 round realcap magazine below it:



At any rate, this gun looks and feels amazing, and aside from the trademarks and non-functional charging handle, attention to detail is superb. The build quality of this gun is truly impressive, and really puts Marui to shame. It feels solid as heck, and is very maneuverable too, which is good for a carbine. It really doesn't feel much like a toy. Okay, so let's take a look at the internals.



I believe I mentioned earlier that this was one of the best skirmishable guns I'd seen in a while. The internals of this gun are great. First, let me mention that the front receiver pin doesn't come out all the way; just enough to remove the receiver, so no worrying about losing it. Also, it doesn't fold up like a plastic receiver gun, it slides forward. Be sure to detach the wiring from the fuse, leaving the fuse in the foregrip, before you try to remove the receiver. Once you've removed the front receiver pin, you can pull off the upper receiver and access the hopup and inner barrel.

The inner barrel is made out of brass, and has a stock inner diameter of 6.035mm. Yes, that's right, it comes with a high quality stock tightbore. No need to upgrade the barrel. The hopup bucking is actually pretty good also, and seems right for the stock power. More on that later. Suffice it to say that this gun is pre-upgraded, for the most part at least in terms of the barrel.

Okay, so now let's turn to the gearbox. This is where Inokatsu starts to go wrong, since their gearboxes are usually decent, but not great. But G&G has done a great job. First, the gearbox is a REINFORCED gearbox, which means you don't need an upgrade replacement shell. This one is great. Next, it's got 7mm ball bearing metal bushings, which means you also don't need to replace the bushings either! Okay, this is a GREAT start. Here's the outside of the gearbox:



Okay, so now we unscrew the 8 Torx screws and open up the gearbox. The internals look great too. It's perfectly shimmed, and comes with high quality steel gears, a metal bearing spring guide, and what appears to be a polycarbonate piston. It's clear that G&G has gone to great lengths to ensure that you don't need to do much, if anything in the way of upgrades. This gun is basically perfect out of the box, and can probably support spring upgrades without much else either. The motor is a good quality 25000 rpm high torque motor, and works great also. Here's the internals, if you're curious:



Basically, I'm incredible impressed with this gun. It shines in just about every category, and doesn't require much in the way of work. Maybe an occasional regrease, but it's a gun that will last you for a long time. So, how about performance?

Function

You guessed it, it's pretty straightforward. Insert the (filled) magazine, making sure that it locks nicely into place. Work the charging handle (you don't have to, but it's cool). Remove it from safe, point at target, and pull trigger. If you're set on semi, keep pulling the trigger until you hit your target (hopefully that means you only fired once). If you're on full auto, hold down to rock and roll. But you better have known that already, plus, it's in the manual. When you're done firing, set it to safe, and remove the magazine. You may want to unsafe it and fire a few times to clear the chamber, and then re-safe it, especially if you plan on disassembling it. Okay, so how does it perform?



I'm going to begin by testing the FPS. My first chrono result was a whopping 380 fps, which is way higher than I was expecting, since the manual says only 90 m/s, which translates to around 300 fps. The advertised power is 330, and I'd expect it to settle to about that, maybe closer to 350 or so. I did a PMC test, and it penetrates both sides, but it only dents the bottom, which puts it under 385 fps. I'm going to put this gun through Hell Week, so we'll see how it goes.

As it turns out, 10,000 rounds later, it's chronoing in at 356 fps on average, so it's hitting much harder than advertised. That's nice for a change! I also hammered on the gearbox with a hammer to test the reinforcement. I opened it up to discover a broken anti-reversal latch, which is unfortunate. The rest of the parts show virtually no signs of wear, so it's really nice quality. You might consider getting a replacement anti-reversal latch, however, since that's the only part that broke under the beating I put it through. Anyways, the good news is that I did do an accuracy test before breaking the gearbox, so we can see what kinds of results we're looking at.

I fired a couple 10 round groupings from 100 feet, sandbag stabilized, and used a zeroed scope and adjusted hopup. These results are indoors with .23g bb's, which I find to be ideal. Here's the target, with labeled groupings:



As you can see, the groupings indicate that the tightbore does indeed work well, and the hopup floats the shots out nicely. This gun is very accurate, and outdoors, you can expect effective range to be at least 150 feet (8/10 torso shots). ROF is very fast, although I'm using a crappy battery, so only around 12 rps, although I'd expect it to get much higher with the recommended battery (9.6v). I'd say this gun should be good to go for CQB out of the box, and can easily be upgraded to be an effective woodland weapon as well. I'm certainly very pleased with it, and I think Airsplat made a great choice bringing these in. Okay, so what can this gun support in the way of accessories and modifications?



First off, the SR16 doesn't have much in the way of rails, although you can detach the carry handle to install various things like rear sights, scopes, etc. You could also install new foregrips, or basically anything. It's an AR, so there are TONS of upgrades that you can buy to support whatever accessories you want. If you're getting an SR16, you probably want it pretty clean, so probably just an RDS or 4x scope will do you fine. But the possibilities, as they say, are endless.








Airsplat will be stocking the entire G&G line, and they always have good prices. The SR16 appears to be 170 there, which is just ludicrous. For a gun this good, I can't believe they're offering it for that cheap. It might be a typo, so expect it to be more like 270. Otherwise, buy it IMMEDIATELY. In fact, buy it immediately anyways. You won't find another high-end for this kind of pricing anywhere else, especially not one that comes pre-upgraded with the goodies that these have. Here's the ad that they're putting up:




The final word is that this gun is just amazing, especially for the prices that Airsplat is offering them for. I find it unlikely that if you buy one of these, that you'll ever want a TM again, unless it's for the trademarks. As a skirmish weapon, these can't be beat by much, if anything, and aside from the fluke anti-reversal latch problem, they're sturdy as anything. Heck, mine survived a drop from a second story balcony onto grass with no visible damage internally or externally, and also spent 2 hours underwater in my bathtub, and came out shooting like a champ. Keep it maintained, and it will last you for a long long time. After reviewing this gun, there's no doubt in my mind that G&G deserves it's spot on my list as one of the top high-end AEG manufacturers.

GREAT review. Had everything I was looking for in a review. I love G&G :) Those things are going to sell quick, shooting at a consistent 350fps on stock, and coming in with a $260 price tag. Once again, great review.

Yea, so are the Plastica ones. Those only run 170, and are very nice. If you didn't see the strength test of G&G plastic, check the link in there. Very nice guns. Many of the other AR models have functional charging handles also.

Compared to, say, a G&P (if you can get your hands on one), how would this compare externally and in general feel of performance (sound, etc)? They're in the same price range and, it seems, the same class if you aren't looking for trades.

I'd say they're on par. The quality of the externals is very good, although the trades are better on the G&P, naturally. As far as internals and performance go, this one is probably a bit better. The one thing that the G&P has that the G&G does not is a metal hopup unit. That being said, the hopup on the G&G is very good, and the G&G comes with a stock tightbore, while the G&P does not.

I think the quality of the externals is probably a bit better, since I prefer the G&G magnesium receivers to the aluminum receivers on the G&P. Just feels a bit better. I'm not prepared to say one is better than the other. They're both awesome high-end guns, and certainly put TM to shame.

This post has been edited by The Crimson Falcon: Aug 26 2007, 03:53 AM

I have this AEG. This thing is absolutly pure sex. I replaced the orange flash hider and put on a CA phantom I had. The threads are a total pain in the booty and I literally ripped the original flash hider into 3 pieces to get it off. Im using a lower 8.4v battery currently and its ROF isnt the best so im going to get a 9.6v nunchuck. Anyone know if you can fit a 9.6v nunchuck in the M4 witha gas tube still in it? I think you could fit it if you put the 2 pieces side-ways. I can stick a 9.6v in sideways so I should be able to do it with nunchucks. but does anyone know for sure?

anyways more about this AEG. Its metal body is just as good, but in my opinion BETTER than Classic Army. it has a gas tube and a reciever sling loop too. the stock tightbore is pretty good too. the handguards are hard to get on and off, but thats good to me since I don't want them falling off or anything. THIS THING IS ROCK SOLID. I can hold it with one hand and theres no squeaking period. its advertised at shooting 350-360 fps, but iv chronoed it out of the box at an average of 380 FPS it hasa 450 round hi cap that is the actual length of the real steel magazine. it works flawlessly and can shoot 50-80 shots before having to wind it again. G&G Arms trades are all over this gun.



internals are super nice and don't require any upgrades, besides maybe a better cylinder.

the downsides:
-plastic hop-up, which of course still works flawlessly and I don't see why metal ones are better.
-while I was field testing it at a skirmish, it jammed once and was spitting out plasitc chunks of bbs, but I just pulled the magazine out, shot a couple shots, stuck it back in, and it worked again. also it somtimes will shoot on full auto on semi or will lock up on semi. minor things though really...

im going to soon purchase a EOtech or a replica EOtech for it, and of course the 9.6v. so ya anyone know if those nunchucks will fit even with a gas tube?

EDIT: and I HIGHLY doubt this reviewer had this AEG in a bathtub for 2 hours. electronics would in no question be fried.

This post has been edited by warbound: Oct 15 2007, 12:27 AM

Do you know if the G&G AK47 will be shooting at around the same FPS, because they said 290-300 on GI, but they always list it lower then it is.

A superb review as always Crimson.

For FPS, it will be pretty close to what Airsplat says, probably higher. I'd expect at least 360-400.

Aquafina, thanks for the kind words, several more reviews are on the way. Stay tuned!

Your (Amazing) review helped me decide that I am buying this gun, but I am still kind of nervous to order from airsplat, from your (Amazing) review, they sounded great. I have heard alot about them though, and im not 100% if they are good to order from.

Currently the only sites that have the rifle are Evike and Airsplat.

Kudos on the (Amazing) review.

untrue. airsoft gi has this same rifle. I ordered it from them.
buy from evike or asgi

NO. Do NOT, repeat, NOT order from Evike. They've got an F rating from the BBB AND from users (check out the retail ratings on the link in my sig), and when asked about that, they basically said screw you, we're happy with what we're doing.

Airsplat, in contrast, called me up last time they screwed up an order, and apologized and asked me how they could fix it, and when I had a gun break on arrival, they paid for me to ship it, and the president of the company personally repaired it and tested it for me. That's CS for you. I have nothing but good things to say about airsplat. They've got great pricing, and great CS. They've really turned their act about, as opposed to Evike, who refuses to respond to customer requests. I work with most of the major retailers in the US and Hong Kong, but I flat out refuse to work with Evike because of their dishonest business practices.

This post has been edited by The Crimson Falcon: Oct 18 2007, 10:11 PM

you made me want this gun really bad.
Nice review!!!

Nice review Crimson. A few quick questions.

1.) This is a Gen.3 I assume considering it was a recent purchase. Do you know if all the other G&G M4 variants are in their 3rd Generation or is it only a select few such as yours?

2.) I was thinking of getting a M4 variant (a CQB to be specific), what is the comparison between the G&G's M4 to other similar priced AEGs like CA and G&P?

3.) Could you please list any current problems encountered with the gun?

4.) Are the MAG brand midcaps compatible with the G&Gs?

5.) In your opinion why do you think everyone is so biased against the GR16 series?

Also, if there is anything additional you could list about the GR16 that you think is important for a first time G&G buyer it would really be appreciated,

thanks,

Pain

This post has been edited by Pain_is_Red: Oct 25 2007, 11:39 PM

Great review Crisom Falcon.

I just got mine last week, great external, very solid, when it shoots, it sound loud and powerful, beautiful it come with beautiful box and catalog. I also got a SR G4 CQB poster, it shows all the accessories can be out on the sr series.

To me, G&G m4 has better external than ICS m4, but ICS makes better MP5.

I can answer and say:

yes MAG magazines will work.
all G&Gs bought brand new will most likely be gen3
price is actually similar to CA and G&P

people hate G&G because theyr mad at themselves that they spent money on a CA or TM etc, and they hate to admit that G&G is better. it IS. theres straight facts. sure hop-up is plastic but lets see...
tightbore barrel
ball bearing bushings and ball bearing spring guide
reciever sling loop
450 round hicap
MUCH better externally. its built like a rock. I can hold it from anywhere, the handgrip, barrel, carrying handle, magazine, stock, sling loop, etc and there is no squeaking or play. except in the handguard but they always wobble.

last, not least, the problems encountered. trigger locked up once. all I did was switch to full auto and back to semi. problem solved. happens to alot of AEGs. no biggy.

but if you read my post from earlier I probly could have answered alot of your questions.

EDIT: OH and btw to tell you one important thing. it has a very powerful spring in it so you need a 9.6v battery. 8.4v makes the ROF like a granny.

This post has been edited by warbound: Oct 30 2007, 12:38 AM

im planning on getting this and I would like to get the metal bodied one but that might not be an option because of the extra 90 bucks ill have to spend. is the plastic body worth saving the 90 bucks?

Umm, I'm not sure. Personally I'd get the plastic version, well because that plastic is indestructible. But I can see why people would want the metal version: Better feel, slightly more durable, easier to brag about, etc.

I'm assuming the internals on the version 3 UMG's would be just as good as this M4. Would that be correct? I'm trying to find a new CQB gun and I've always liked UMP's.

Just to assure you Crimson Falcon, each serial number is indeed unique. Min is 0003918. Also, they just released V4's :D

Question for you Crimson (and any other G&G owners in this thread): When I get my G&G (will have the M16A3 variant VERY soon) somewhere down the line I do want to replace the body with another metal body with real trademarks (I'm a total trademark nut) and the other day I came across some information that the G&G gearboxes are actually larger than the Marui standard V2 which is in just about every airsoft AR-15 in existance basically what I want to know is if I'll have any trouble swapping to a new aftermarket receiver? Thanks for the help and great review.

This post has been edited by gunzablazin: Nov 29 2007, 10:08 PM

G&G has a few metal bodies with real trademarks on them available.
try the UNcompany. they are an overseas dealer so don't expect cheap prices for top quality and rare airsoft gun parts.

This post has been edited by warbound: Nov 30 2007, 12:23 AM

Crimson - I've been trying to swap my outer barrel (I have my G&G M16A3 now and I'm trying to swap to an SPR front end) and I can't get the dang thing out of the receiver, what exactly did you do to remove it?

Warbound - what did you do to get your flash hider off of your M4? Mine is glued on way too tight and no matter what I do to it, it won't come off.

PM replied

amazing review, made me get one haha.
Yea I can't get my flash hider off either..

This post has been edited by coolduderyan07: Dec 25 2007, 11:28 AM

Superb Review in my honest opinion. It really gave me insight to the kind of gun that this is. Being of course as mentioned, a straightforward out-of-the-box rifle that doesn't give you fuss over problems seeing as it is pre-upgraded and is sturdy as a boulder.

I'm planning to buy that same kind of gun at airsplat, it's Guay Guay also, except it has a full stock for a large battery and rails for mounting stuff. I'm a rails freak like that, oh well

I'm also surprised that a high grade manufacturer like GG would sell their guns in the 170-190 range ( The one I'm buying is 190 because of the rails and full stock as previously mentioned). I really hope it isn't a typo since getting this gun is just 30 dollars more then an Echo-1 m-16 at 160 dollars.

Here's the link for the airsoft gun I'm saving up to buy: http://www.airsplat.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ER-GG-GR16-R4-P

The $170-190 ones are plastic. The $260+ ones are metal. I think that may be the only difference though. I have the metal one in this review and it's pretty nice.

Just noticed that the ones on airsplat are now NOT showing the white trademarks. This is disapointing....http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ER-GG-GR16-PL.htm

That is the plastic version. For $260 - $270, you can get the metal version with the white trademarks.

Understood. Now, if I get a new gun, will it be the plastic G&G or the Echo1 SPC? Im thinking the G&G now!

Buy either a plastic G&G or a plastic CA M15A4 (Sportline)

Well, based on the awesomeness of my brother's new E1 M4 (version 3) I purchased it and it should be here tommorow. That's the first gun that Ive seen SO MUCH great reviews on with little bad reported and of course, getting to shoot and to be shot by it was a deciding factor. Not to mention the cost factor. I just couldnt justify to the wife of spending the other 30-40 bucks.

If it's as good as my brother's then Im in business. The thing will eat you up at 100 feet, felt at 120, going as far as 150 feet (but not felt there). My plan is to get a tightbore for it in the next month to up the FPS slightly, and accuracy of course.

This gun is my 'upgrade' from my A&K M4 S System. I am tempted to try to change the E1's handguard off and put the A&K's on it for a RIS.

How possible is that without new parts?

ET

This post has been edited by SWAMPCat: Jan 9 2008, 08:59 AM

Echo 1 is a good beginner AEG. well I hope it works out for you!

No offense, but it would have seemed a much smarter decision to buy a sportline or G&G plastic one. they are much better than Echo 1 for like $40 more. My G&G can hit things at 200 feet and already has a tightbore and fully upgraded internals. for the price of that tightbore you are dropping into that Echo 1 M4 you could have bought a G&G plastic or an M15A4 Sportline.

No offence taken, and Im wondering now if that's what I should have done too now. However, it will all work out somehow or another!

Thanks!

I'm not entirely sure, but if it's a copy of the Tm s system then I think you can only use those rails with the s-system body and all. Things may have changed but I asked that question a few years ago and thats the response I received.

I just received my G&G GR16 plastica the other day and I must say its a looker...I have yet to field test it as I haven't received my bbs, battery, and red dot yet, but only a few cons...One being that the handguard is very loose as it moves in your hand back and forth, I tried tightening the circular gear looking part with the wrench G&G gives you to no avail and didn't have any luck. Another is the mag wobbling a bit, but I just put some electrical tape on the top part of the mag and it locks in pretty good now. But the Charging handle does work, opening the cover exposing the hopup, with the plasticas if anyone really wanted to know. Other than that it has a real solid construction and the plastic is very strong and seems like it will last a while. As I said I haven't gotten a change to put it to the real test yet, but I've heard of greasing the gear box with G&Gs when you first get them so if anyone has a guide or anything I'd appreciate it.

wow what a nice little gun. I can definately see this arriving at my doorstep in the future.

also, are there a lot of external upgrades for this. it would really look cool with rails on the handguard so I could put my amazing front grip on it. if there isn't
its not a big deal

I bought one, and it is comforting to hear good reviews about it. You definetly have me excited about the UPS man. Does anyone know where I can get a top rail for it, because I am not going to be using the carrying handle.