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ANazario
post Aug 22 2007, 06:16 PM
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I just got into airsoft and bought a JG G36c as my first gun. It was cheap and also wanted to invest in it before I spend on a TM or CA. If I'm not mistaken my G36c already has a V3 gearbox and shoots about a good 350+. All my friends have TM's and already did internal upgrades; tune up kits, etc. What internal upgrades can I do to my V3 gearbox to match up with my homies. Is the JG V3 gearbox any good? appreciate the help...
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post Aug 22 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 22 2007, 04:16 PM) *
I just got into airsoft and bought a JG G36c as my first gun. It was cheap and also wanted to invest in it before I spend on a TM or CA. If I'm not mistaken my G36c already has a V3 gearbox and shoots about a good 350+. All my friends have TM's and already did internal upgrades; tune up kits, etc. What internal upgrades can I do to my V3 gearbox to match up with my homies. Is the JG V3 gearbox any good? appreciate the help...


Well, what do you want to do? the JG G36c is a very solid gearbox. Do you want more FPS? better accuracy?

Personally, I would open it up, re-shim, re-lube, put in metal bushings http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=2250
a BB spring guide http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...products_id=395 and possibly a new piston or piston head, but they aren't needed. metal bushings and a BB spring guide should last you a good while. For accuracy, get a tightbore barrel and a new hop up bucking.

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post Aug 22 2007, 07:52 PM
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Defenitely more FPS, what do you recommend? since the g36c is a solid gearbox, would you recommend getting a tune up kit? is it neccessary or only only certain parts of the JG gearbox should be change? I heard upgrading on a motor and battery is good too. I heard certain upgrades need to be balanced in order to sustain a gearbox's life...what size barrel is good for accuracy? thanks buddy, newbie rookie....



QUOTE (hydralover @ Aug 22 2007, 03:32 PM) *
Well, what do you want to do? the JG G36c is a very solid gearbox. Do you want more FPS? better accuracy?

Personally, I would open it up, re-shim, re-lube, put in metal bushings http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=2250
a BB spring guide http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...products_id=395 and possibly a new piston or piston head, but they aren't needed. metal bushings and a BB spring guide should last you a good while. For accuracy, get a tightbore barrel and a new hop up bucking.

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post Aug 22 2007, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 22 2007, 05:52 PM) *
Defenitely more FPS, what do you recommend? since the g36c is a solid gearbox, would you recommend getting a tune up kit? is it neccessary or only only certain parts of the JG gearbox should be change? I heard upgrading on a motor and battery is good too. I heard certain upgrades need to be balanced in order to sustain a gearbox's life...what size barrel is good for accuracy? thanks buddy, newbie rookie....


well, what kind of FPS are you looking at? a-yesnod.gif


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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 22 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Defenitely more FPS, what do you recommend? since the g36c is a solid gearbox, would you recommend getting a tune up kit? is it neccessary or only only certain parts of the JG gearbox should be change? I heard upgrading on a motor and battery is good too. I heard certain upgrades need to be balanced in order to sustain a gearbox's life...what size barrel is good for accuracy? thanks buddy, newbie rookie....

So you feel like upgrading the FPS?

A full tune up may be overdoing it depending on what you plan on upgrading.
The max I would go to is 400FPS, so if you were to ever go to a field or play in an official game, your gun would not be go over the limit that is usually set to 400FPS.

What I would recommend would be the spring, a metal spring guide, a high quality polycarbonate piston and piston head, metal bushings, and some shims.
You need the spring for obvious reasons.
The metal spring guide gives more durability. I would recommend a spring guide with bearings.
You need a high quality polycarb piston for a 400FPS upgrade. Your Area 1000 piston may not be the best since I hear stories about them wearing down quickly.
Metal bushings and shims for obvious reasons as well.
The gears in the JG G36C is just perfect full steel. They are really high in quality and I just like them better than TM gears with the aluminum sector gear.

Like hydralover said (he said a lot of this already, but I'm just elaborating), get a new tightbore and hop-up.
TM is known for one of the best hop-ups around. So due to this, a completely new hop-up would give it the hop-up quality close to TM.
Then, a tightbore will increase the accuracy of the gun. Due to the gun's short barrel, woodland battles would give you a disadvantage. To make this up, you should get a tightbore.
I looked on Airsoft GI and was only able to find A Systema G36C Tightbore. Instead, why not go to EHobbyAsia on Ebay and find a Prometheus 247mm barrel instead if they make them. And EHobbyAsia has nice prices on certain parts as well.
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post Aug 22 2007, 08:13 PM
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my friends have upgraded their guns to 400+. I want to be around the same level. I really want to work on the JG to save money and spend on upgrades rather than buying a TM or CA for now. thanks again for your help...

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well, what kind of FPS are you looking at? a-yesnod.gif
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post Aug 22 2007, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 22 2007, 06:13 PM) *
my friends have upgraded their guns to 400+. I want to be around the same level. I really want to work on the JG to save money and spend on upgrades rather than buying a TM or CA for now. thanks again for your help...


to avoid reading dragon's huge block of text ( a-jester.gif ) just get a PDI 170%, a prometheus 247mm tightbore, guarder hop up bucking, echo 1 metal bushings, echo 1 g36 cylinder set, systema shims, and a systema v.3 Ball Bearing spring guide. If you want, you can get a systema turbo (high ROF)

this should cost you upwards of 160 dollars. Get everything from ASGI, which has free shipping on orders over $100. When you checkout, type in "freeupsground" into the coupon box.


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post Aug 23 2007, 07:19 AM
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thanks for your help guys. now all I gotta do is save up and get the parts so I can blast on my homies...!
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post Aug 25 2007, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (hydralover @ Aug 22 2007, 05:52 PM) *
to avoid reading dragon's huge block of text ( a-jester.gif ) just get a PDI 170%, a prometheus 247mm tightbore, guarder hop up bucking, echo 1 metal bushings, echo 1 g36 cylinder set, systema shims, and a systema v.3 Ball Bearing spring guide. If you want, you can get a systema turbo (high ROF)

this should cost you upwards of 160 dollars. Get everything from ASGI, which has free shipping on orders over $100. When you checkout, type in "freeupsground" into the coupon box.



yo my man..the set up you just listed sounds legit! but, a friend told me that using a PDI 170% spring would need a reinforced gearbox, reinforced gears, torque up gears, and metal bushings. Is the JG gearbox able to withstand such an upgrade being the fact that it is a V.3 gearbox?

also are the echo 1 metal bushings, g36 cylinder set the same as the stock JG bushings and cylinder set? would you recommend just getting a tune up kit like guarder? I'm worried that it'll decrease the stock power if I don't put in the right parts...

please help? thanks
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post Aug 25 2007, 07:59 PM
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While having a lot of power is nice, it is way overrated. The FPS is just the speed of the bb, not necessarily the distance. The FPS boost will add distance but, what you really should be looking at is hop-up. Try getting a new bucking (systema) 350 FPS is perfect for the G36C, not to high not to low. The hop-up s what gives the gun its range. If you want to add FPS without killing the life of your gun, a tightbore, and a new piston, piston head, and maybe an air nozzle would do it. Then you can add the metal bushing's and metal spring guide.


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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 25 2007, 05:32 PM) *
yo my man..the set up you just listed sounds legit! but, a friend told me that using a PDI 170% spring would need a reinforced gearbox, reinforced gears, torque up gears, and metal bushings. Is the JG gearbox able to withstand such an upgrade being the fact that it is a V.3 gearbox?

also are the echo 1 metal bushings, g36 cylinder set the same as the stock JG bushings and cylinder set? would you recommend just getting a tune up kit like guarder? I'm worried that it'll decrease the stock power if I don't put in the right parts...

please help? thanks


your friend fails a-nonod.gif lol jk. but 400 FPS isn't really that much. the V.3 should be able to take it easily. You don't need a reinforced gearbox, and JG gears are very good, so you don't need reinforced gears. You do, however, need metal bushings.

I wouldn't recommend getting a FTK by guarder. What I did, I installed metal bushings, a BB spring guide, and the Echo 1/Modify g36 cylinder set. I plan on putting in a systema turbo motor for high FPS.

I'm not quite understanding the question in the second paragraph a-confused.gif


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QUOTE (hydralover @ Aug 25 2007, 06:22 PM) *
your friend fails a-nonod.gif lol jk. but 400 FPS isn't really that much. the V.3 should be able to take it easily. You don't need a reinforced gearbox, and JG gears are very good, so you don't need reinforced gears. You do, however, need metal bushings.

I wouldn't recommend getting a FTK by guarder. What I did, I installed metal bushings, a BB spring guide, and the Echo 1/Modify g36 cylinder set. I plan on putting in a systema turbo motor for high FPS.

I'm not quite understanding the question in the second paragraph a-confused.gif


ok..after researching the jg g36c, V.3 already has metal bushings? did you still change yours out or did you have the V.2 gearbox? also how tight of a barrel should I install? and is it neccessary to change out the bucking sleeve? thanks man
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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 28 2007, 01:33 AM) *
ok..after researching the jg g36c, V.3 already has metal bushings? did you still change yours out or did you have the V.2 gearbox? also how tight of a barrel should I install? and is it neccessary to change out the bucking sleeve? thanks man

Ok a version 2 gearbox is not the same as the version 2 of the JG G36, a v2gb is usually used in m16 varients. Anywho, what were we talkin about? o yea the JG G36c, well the metal shims just came out and almost all JGs/Echos already have m120 springs in them so no need for fps upgrading there. I replaced my hopup with a guarder v3 metal (I think thats what I got), systema tighbore (for accuracy) and metal spring guide and polycarb piston (and metal shims but you don't need that. sold it for 345$ heeheehee. anywho just get a tightbore and new hopup and you should be all set.


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QUOTE (jtroboto @ Aug 27 2007, 10:46 PM) *
Ok a version 2 gearbox is not the same as the version 2 of the JG G36, a v2gb is usually used in m16 varients. Anywho, what were we talkin about? o yea the JG G36c, well the metal shims just came out and almost all JGs/Echos already have m120 springs in them so no need for fps upgrading there. I replaced my hopup with a guarder v3 metal (I think thats what I got), systema tighbore (for accuracy) and metal spring guide and polycarb piston (and metal shims but you don't need that. sold it for 345$ heeheehee. anywho just get a tightbore and new hopup and you should be all set.


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QUOTE (ANazario @ Aug 27 2007, 10:33 PM) *
ok..after researching the jg g36c, V.3 already has metal bushings? did you still change yours out or did you have the V.2 gearbox? also how tight of a barrel should I install? and is it neccessary to change out the bucking sleeve? thanks man


The "V.3" for the g36c (I'm assuming you're looking at ASGI?) simply means the 3rd version OF the g36c that has been released by Echo 1/JG, not the gearbox version. The gearbox version for the g36c also happens to be a version 3 gearbox, which simply means that it is shaped differently from other versions of gearboxes. There are 6-7 different versions of gearboxes. I had the version 2 g36c, which had plastic bushings. Since the version 3 g36c comes with metal bushings, which are pretty good (I'm assuming echo 1 bushings in them?) there is no need to swap them out for aftermarket parts.

I would recommend you get a DB custom tightbore (247mm in length) from www.deescustoms.com If not, go prometheus, then KM, then systema, then madbull.

I would only change out the bucking and sleeve when you are not satisfied with their performance. Try playing with the stock parts, and if you aren't happy, buy replacements. If you are happy, then don't a-yesnod.gif

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QUOTE (hydralover @ Aug 25 2007, 07:22 PM) *
I wouldn't recommend getting a FTK by guarder. What I did, I installed metal bushings, a BB spring guide, and the Echo 1/Modify g36 cylinder set. I plan on putting in a systema turbo motor for high FPS.



I'm sorry, did I say turbo motor for high FPS? I meant high ROF....heh

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QUOTE (hydralover @ Aug 28 2007, 01:52 AM) *
I would recommend you get a DB custom tightbore (247mm in length) from www.deescustoms.com If not, go prometheus, then KM, then systema, then madbull.

Hey thats what I said except that it was harder to understand and created by me! a-skeptical.gif


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I was wondering how you know if you have a version 2 or 3 because I got a JG G36c from an ebay store and I don't know how to tell weather or not it is a version 2 or 3 and I am looking to upgrade.

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QUOTE (MrPharaoh @ Mar 25 2008, 05:18 PM) *
I was wondering how you know if you have a version 2 or 3 because I got a JG G36c from an ebay store and I don't know how to tell weather or not it is a version 2 or 3 and I am looking to upgrade.

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Please, for the sake of the forum, do not bring up threads past 4 weeks. It is your first, so I'll let it slide, but don't necro post again. thanks. You can pm anyone on here, and you will get an answer fast. When did you get it, and does it have metal bushings? you will most likely have the v.2 jg, but you could have a v.3.


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