Is there an M1 Carbine out there? if so is it eny good?

Yea, there is one out there. It, however, is gas and you have to pull the bolt back after every shot, so its kind of like a sniper but less consistent.

aw, thats g a y

This post has been edited by Will: Jan 8 2005, 11:02 PM

uh, most sniper rifles are bolt action anyways. Besides, the thing's full metal/wood and chronos at 400 FPS or so with HFC134a.

Mods, could you guys move this to the gas section? thanks

well the real m1 carbine woulda never been used as a sniper, at all

any why exactly not? Any gun can be used as a sniper rifle with proper modification. As a matter of fact, for covert sniping, this would make a much better choice over the M1 Garand and M21, since the round had less charge and was easier to silence.

Anyway, the Airsoft version is dead accurate, too.

the real gun, has bad accuracy at long ranges.
And has little stopping power

Yeah, even though it was like .30-06, you still had to double tap someone to kill them. The gun was really underpowered, it was only designed as a weapon for tank crews and paratroopers.

Many officers in the pacific would ditch these guns for more powerful guns, like a Thompson, or a M1 Garand

gah! M1 Carbine was the semi auto rifle. M1A1 was teh thompson (ADVANCED 1 !!! GAWD!) M1 Garand was the sniper variation of the M1. know your role bitches. haha (I just always wanted to say that

I have two friends with Maruzen M1 Carbines. They are 8mm, semi-automatic, gas propelled guns and have gotten great reviews.

And Will, where do you get your information? From vets I have talked to the M1 was a great weapon, especially when issued to Airborne troops.

whenm fighting the americans, the Japs would Bonzai charge and crap, and they would wear turnacats artound there head when the charged, so they could function long enough to kill you.

thats what those dumb flag looking things are around the soliders head

This post has been edited by Will: Jan 9 2005, 08:52 PM

100 percent incorrect, the M1 garand was a Service rifle, even thought it was a great rifle, it wasn't accurate enough at long ranges.

the M1 Carbine came after the Garand, it was supposed to be a lighter/ Officer version

you're a blowhard racist, someone should ban your . You're farking weak, dude. The Japanese were part of the axis countries, which included Nazi Germany and Facist Italy. The Japanese Military also didn't wear, "turnocits," (sp?) on their heads.

In anycase, the .30 "pistol," round used in the m1 Carbine had medium range, which was used with much acclaim by the soldiers. It was supposed to take the play of both the .30-06 Garand and .45 1911 in the kit, but, it never cought on. Soldiers prefered the Carbine over the Garand becuase it was less, "clumsy," and easier to use in building to building warfare and jungles. The average soldier had no use for a .30-06's range, since most of them couldn't hit targets to that range.

Also, the Thomspon M1a1 was a variation of the Thompson M1, which was based on the M1928. They had to make it more reliable and cheaper to build, so they made the M1, followed by the M1A1, which was ultimately replaced by the M3A1. The differance between the M1 and the M1928 was the bolt placement and the material/weight/build quality.

And the Springfield M1 Garand was not the sniper variation of the M1, it was the standard issue infantry weapon for the first half of the war, around 44' the M1 Carbine was released to the acclaim of the troops.

Also, the M1 Carbine had a sniper successor called the "M3 Night Sniper," which features a sound supresser, black stock and infared scope. There was also the M2 Carbine which was a select fire weapon.

Ya see, will, the M1 Carbine WAS indead a very liked gun among the troops. Also, 18x, the Garand was just another service rifle and the Tompson had nothing to do with the M1 Carbine.

Jake, it was a .30 Pistol round, not .30-06.

and Bear, the Marushin M1 Carbines are SSB, meaing you them manually between shots. It's not Semi-auto.



actually, the Garand saw it's way into use as a sniper weapon in the Korean Conflict. You've just watched Saving Private Ryan a few too many times. The 1903A4 was not the only sniper rilfe used between 1903 and 1969.

This post has been edited by Thomme: Jan 9 2005, 07:21 PM

/THOU SHALT NOT USE MY NAME IN VAIN/ bless you for writing that. I didn't want to have to write all of it, but I felt these people needed to know, and you saved me a good 10 minutes. Sounds like I'm not the only ww2 nut round here.......

I just noticed a BIG TYPO, I said when fighting the germans???? noi meant americans! hehe my bad

Thats really too bad bout your grandpa. However, saving private ryan is the best movie in respect to representing the sheer horror of war, as many veterans have said. As for making the germans look bad, I think they did a pretty dern good representation of them as just another enemy, not bloodthirsty jew haters like many un-informed people like to believe(most german soldiers except for in the higher echlon and the SS had no clue about the jew/pow camps).

On another airsoft note, don't let the fact that you have to work the bolt each time completely make you not want the carbine, just know that its there.

Are you talking about the bandana's they wore under their helmet's and aviator caps? If you are, they weren't turnicuts (I'm gonna look up how to spell this word someday) they were simply headbands, and they didn't mean they were kamikaze pilots/warriors. They really meant nothing, really (or at least that I can find) As for your grandfather's death, I'm sorry that it happened, but, you can't hold it against Japan. It was war crimes 50 years ago. I'm sure the japanese weren't too happy when we dropped the equivalent of 50,000 tons of TNT on their cities and killed hundreds of thousands of people. But, honestly, I feel for ya'.'

Anyway, sorry to be so malice, but, that comment about "Japs attacking Germans," and "turnicat's," and, "Kamikaze," kind'a ticked me off, made you seem rather biggotist and uninteligent.

PS. I have one thing to say regard M1 Carbine vs. M1 Garand vs. M1903... how about you walk 100 yards out, I'll shoot you with each one and you can tell me which one hurt most.

Also, regarding SPR, I thought that movie did a good job humanizing the Nazis. Like when they came running out of the bunkers yelling, "I'm sorry," in German and they shot them or when they captured the guy at the machine gun emplacement. It really humanized the "enemy." Even I was hoping Cpt. Miller'd let the guy go.

This post has been edited by Thomme: Jan 9 2005, 09:06 PM

Alright, all right. If we don't get back to the subject at hand, the mods will close this, and I think its a pretty good topic, so lets put aside our differences and all be friends, shall we :)

well, see the thing is, that I noticed.
well, if u looked at it, keeping some stuff in mind, you would be like
"hey, ur right!"

Also, will, there's an M1 Garand gas gun and an M21 sniper rifle coming out. Also, the guy's at Scoot & Shoot make the Enfield No. 1 rifle, if you're interested in WWII-ish weapons. I'll give you a quick list:

TM: Thompson M1A1
M-14 (tentative)
1911A1 (tentaive)
Top:
MP40
Hudson:
M3A1
Tanaka:
Luger P08
Kar 98
Maruzen:
1911A1
Walther P38
Marushin:
Broomhandle Mauser's
Nambo pistols
M1 Carbine
Western Arms:
1911A1 of any kind imaginable
Shoei:
MP44
MG34
BAR (is this accurate? Who made the old BAR gas gun?)
Shoot & Scoot custom:
Type 99 (the japanese rifle)
Enfield No.1 field rifle
Bren Gun (I believe)

that's about it, I think. There's also an M21 and M1 Garand GBB, but, I can't find info on those right now.

This post has been edited by Thomme: Jan 9 2005, 09:18 PM

I am and I have a great soce for WW2 weaponry

www.wwiiguns.com

one day I will own that MG-42 :) :)

That site's a bit overpriced, you'd do better to try HK airsoft sites and classifieds at ClassicAirsoft.net for most of those guns.

I cant find enything on classic airsoft on MP 40s

TOP MP40s are coming out in a few weeks. There's also a Marushin AEG conversion, which isn't classic. I know on Classic Airsoft, there's something about some guy's MP40 GBB gun. And his whole kit, look under pictures.

It would be an Ashai mp40, and it has to have a hose and all that, and is very expensive and so are the magazines. I recommend waiting for the top mp-40

whao hey there I got about half way down this page and just decided too add a reply lol ok, here we go

M1A1 Carbine - 30 Cal Carbine/7.62x33mm (semi auto magazine fed)

M2-3 Carbine - 30 Cal Carbine/7.62x33mm (Full auto variant of M1 Car)

M1 Garand - 30-06/7.62x66mm (Semi Auto Bandolier or manualy fed)

Thompson M1A1 - 45ACP (Stick Mag fed, chargeing handle Located on left side)

Thompson M1927 - 45 ACP (Stick Magazine fed Chargeing handle on top of reciever and forward pistol grip added)

Thompson M1928 - 45ACP (Drum and Stick adeptable with chargeing handle on top)

ok thats in a nut shell

and umm in all actuality who would really use the M1 Carbine for a Snipeing weapon? strange I would figure the cartridge to be insuficiant for range but hey anything is possible I guess.

BTW just because your grandfather was killed in a POW Camp dosent mean you have to spout racial slurs or anything of that sort my grand father was in an internment camp when he died but im not takeing it out on americans... hell I love americans thats why I joined the army 11 bravo baby.

anyway
peace out my ppls

This post has been edited by Shigeo: Jan 10 2005, 03:12 AM

Thank you for listing those facts and that you for serving our great United States of America :)

I can't believe someone in this country is still using WWII as a reason for racist and anti cultural attitudes towards the japanese. That just boggles my mind.

I bet he has no problem playing his Sony Playstation.. or for that matter... BUYING AIRSOFT GUNS FROM THEM!!!!

Idiocy.... sheer idocy.....

If I hear any more racist or anti cultural remarks of any kind.. there will be steps taken. I have no tolerance for that kind of BS

Thomme, I could've sworn the Maruzen M1 Carbines were semi-automatic. Oh well, shows what I know. Appreciate the info you've provided thus far, however.

And Will, take a pill. Posting while drunk never helps anyone.

I'm 15? how can I be drunk

Actually the Garand was extremely accurate.



Thank you Bp, you beat me to saying that.

It was chambered in .30 Carbine. Much smaller than .30-06


Know when to not act like an . Case in point, when you're wrong. Like now. M1A1 was a carbine and an SMG. Oh, and the Abrams is an M1A1 too. So, we have:
M1A1 Carbine
M1A1 Thompson (SMG)
M1A1 Abrams Tank
M1A1 Plasma Rigle in the 40 Milliwatt Range (Hey, only what you see pal)
Also, the M1 Garand was the US Service Rifle of WWII, for all Army, and when enough Marines decided that the '03 wasnt thet great of a gun to be charging onto beaches with they started packing it too. The M1C and M1D were 'sniperized' versions of the M1 Garand that saw service into the Korean War, especially with Army units, although max effective range was in the 800m range, and they never caught on as much as the later-adopted M21 SWS based off the M14.

but, the M14 was based off the M1 Garand. It was the same rifle with a box-mag and select fire. So, the M21 was the same rifle with a box mag.

I own a m1 garand, my grandfathers who has serverin the pacific theater. he was a marine advanced scout and claims he would go into hell with his m1, men who held it and shot it swear by it. I now have it and blow the crap out of 700 pg.catalogs and gophers,the gophers litteraly explode. a person holding it incorrectly could fracture there sholder, and a shot gun stance must be taken when shooting or balance and accuracy will be off.the m1 in my eyes is more accuract then any gun me or my father own.the only gun we think that has just as much accuracy is the ar15, them both nailing a 8 inch disk at 200 yards. its all oak and heavy as hell but it gets the job done. the carbin on the other hand after reading this and calling my other grandfather claims it was a mite compaired to anything else. from personal knowledge and my gradfather who TRAINED men in thse claims it can not be used as a sniper rifle. a sniper rifle demands a larger cart. and more barrel to be effective. the sound of a m1 carbine will let you know right off that it would never be used as a sniping weapon.the m2 btw was used in nam, and developed duringafter ww2, used in korea I do belv. it hardly saw action in ww2. so were ever you all are getting this slanderous information about the M1 garand HERE IS THE WORDS OF SOME ONE WHO SHOOTS ONE, it is a GREAT weapon. and varients of it still exist in todays military as sniping weapons. as for the M1 carbine there are no varients for the gun is unessisary in situations other then airborn operations, and even then a submachine gun is more effetive with a .30m1.
here is some info on this rifle

M1 CARBINE SERIES

invented by david m. williams, was short stroke piston operated, was invented to be light and not exceed 5.2 lbs loaded.and later was capible of full automatic fire. it was stand issue to US airborn troops. it was very popular as a officers sidearm but not fully intended to be one(as a post above mentions).though little more then a pistol round its manuverability and ACCURACY proved more effective then a sidearm on the field.and was easier to ctrl then a submachine gun .the m2- invented in 44-45 saw very little action in the war and became usfull in korea and nam. a folding stock can be fitted to these. there was also a M3 that was fitted with a flash hider and infra-red night scope, used for commando operations, only 2100 of theses were made, proveing to be less effective as thought.

There are two M1 carbine manufacturers. One is a custom build and costs upwards of $800. The other is a Marushin, which I own and am currently looking to trade. The gun is awesome; the reason I am looking to get rid of it is because I always end up being the platoon on the playing field, since the thing is so darned effective as a support/ counter-sniper weapon :)

This post has been edited by Magnum: Jan 16 2005, 08:56 PM

The M1 Carbine used a .45ACP round, instead of the .30-6.

I thought M1 carbines shot 30 cal?

why did u bring up this dead thread?