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> Official Jing Gong Website?, Is there one?
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:59 AM
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I've searched all over Google with multiple keywords, Jing Gong, Jing Gong airsoft, JG airsoft, and all of them just lead me to retail websites. I've been thinking of getting an M4A1 and want some more info (and maybe some high quality picture to drool over) but I cant find Jing Gong's official website. Is there one?


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post Aug 23 2007, 12:04 PM
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I don't think so but why don't you get info off here.
There is an Echo 1 website which is JG guns with a warrenty. Echo 1 Usa website.
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There's no Tokyo Mauri site either.
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QUOTE (darthrebelpengiun @ Aug 23 2007, 01:49 PM) *
There's no Tokyo Mauri site either.


Actually I believe there is (it's just not in English):

Tokyo Marui Website

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Classic Army also has a website: Classic Army


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So does ICS, and G&P. I wish phantom(pantac now) Had a website.


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QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Aug 23 2007, 11:31 AM) *
Actually I believe there is (it's just not in English):

Tokyo Marui Website


Whats with the trains...java script:emoticon(':a-skeptical:',%20'smid_19')

and why didn't my smiley work...


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QUOTE (iamthewalrus @ Aug 23 2007, 04:17 PM) *
Whats with the trains...java script:emoticon(':a-skeptical:',%20'smid_19')

and why didn't my smiley work...


Tokyo Marui is severely (if not completely) cutting down its production of airsoft guns, and is going to make model trains now. I believe they are still going to produce their current models, but don't expect any new models in the future.


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QUOTE (notAnotC @ Aug 23 2007, 04:19 PM) *
Tokyo Marui is severely (if not completely) cutting down its production of airsoft guns, and is going to make model trains now. I believe they are still going to produce their current models, but don't expect any new models in the future.


They ended it with The new type 89 folding stock.....

Its because of The new china models a-angry.gif , They are as good as marui but way cheaper, I think tokyo marui found that out and is now getting out before the lose anymore money

SO blame china(Or china made guns) for this... a-jester.gif
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For those you who aren't old enough to remember Tokyo Marui didn't start out as airsoft company. They were into making remote control cars and other toys. So for them switching focus to Trains doesn't surprice me as their AEG design pattern is running out next year. So it's not just because of China airsoft. In fact, you are going to see the quality of Taiwanese AEG going up in quality and with more selections in then next 6 months .... Next year is going to be quite an interesting year for airsoft.
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QUOTE (iamthewalrus @ Aug 23 2007, 04:17 PM) *
Whats with the trains...java script:emoticon(':a-skeptical:',%20'smid_19')

and why didn't my smiley work...
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I know, I was pretty surprised myself that one of the greatest airsoft makers makes model trains as well. Pretty cool though. As a few other people have mentioned, they also make(made) RC cars and other hobbyist "toys" like that.

And I'm sorry to hear about your defective smileys a-jester.gif
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I believe TM is still going to come out with the TMP, there only announced gun that hasn't been released yet (as far as I know).
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^^there's still a handful of guns they promised to come out (eg. 10-inch Desert Eagle) so its kinda weird to say the Type 89 Para is the last gun they will make...

QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Aug 23 2007, 08:31 AM) *
Actually I believe there is (it's just not in English):

Tokyo Marui Website


There's one in English but I don't know if they are an official TM site: http://tokyo-airsoft-gun.com/

QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Aug 23 2007, 03:07 PM) *
I know, I was pretty surprised myself that one of the greatest airsoft makers makes model trains as well.


They started with r/c cars....then to airsoft...but also made R/C tanks that fires airsoft BBs..
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QUOTE (notAnotC @ Aug 23 2007, 01:19 PM) *
Tokyo Marui is severely (if not completely) cutting down its production of airsoft guns, and is going to make model trains now. I believe they are still going to produce their current models, but don't expect any new models in the future.

but hasnt tm ALWAYS been a HOBBY manufacture?


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QUOTE (nowayitskevin @ Aug 23 2007, 10:09 PM) *
but hasnt tm ALWAYS been a HOBBY manufacture?


what is that supposed to mean? lol... they're a hobby manufacturer that's switching to model trains....which is still another hobby...

TM's known for high quality; in their cars, tanks, airsoft guns, and trains (now)....

They will still be a "hobby manufacturer" but won't make airsoft anymore...
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Back on topic, JG doesn't have a website, and neither do any of the other ACM manufacturers. As I understand it, producing airsoft guns is a capital crime in mainland China, or at least merits imprisonment, so it's not wise for them to advertise on the web like that. It's best if nobody knows where they are and so forth.


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QUOTE (The Crimson Falcon @ Aug 23 2007, 10:33 PM) *
Back on topic, JG doesn't have a website, and neither do any of the other ACM manufacturers. As I understand it, producing airsoft guns is a capital crime in mainland China, or at least merits imprisonment, so it's not wise for them to advertise on the web like that. It's best if nobody knows where they are and so forth.


Does HongKong have the same law? I know its part of China but they govern themselves so maybe there's an exception to airsoft manufacturing there....that's why all the ACM guns usually say "made in Hong Kong", if not "made in China"...

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QUOTE (The Crimson Falcon @ Aug 24 2007, 01:33 AM) *
Back on topic, JG doesn't have a website, and neither do any of the other ACM manufacturers. As I understand it, producing airsoft guns is a capital crime in mainland China, or at least merits imprisonment, so it's not wise for them to advertise on the web like that. It's best if nobody knows where they are and so forth.


Seriously? a-confused.gif Where did you hear that? Aren't almost all airsoft guns made in china (besides of course TM)? I would think that customs would be able to stop them if it was really that illegal.


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Most of the airsofter here in US are pretty simple minded. The answer however is never that simple.

So Yes... making replica guns is REALLY illegal in China. These ACM guns are operated under a loop holes in the law. If you want to import those AGM you have to go through agents who's knows how to deal if export laws and local law enforcement in China. They don't really like to talk about this in the open. Some call it bribery, some call it export fees.... but it's true.

As for Hong Kong, It's under a different administrative rule since 1997 when England handed HK back to China. And they have their own government.

Unless you want me to give you a long history lesson. I'll just ended it here.

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QUOTE (The Crimson Falcon @ Aug 24 2007, 03:33 AM) *
Back on topic, JG doesn't have a website, and neither do any of the other ACM manufacturers. As I understand it, producing airsoft guns is a capital crime in mainland China, or at least merits imprisonment, so it's not wise for them to advertise on the web like that. It's best if nobody knows where they are and so forth.

A nice bribe goes a long way, cops are the same there as they are here.

But beyond that, many of the factories in china are owned by the chinese military. It's possible that the PLA owns the factories, or has stake in them, and that's why they're allowed to keep producing.

And of course, I'm sure the chinese government gets a percentage of what they make as well.


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^^ corruption in communist countries are far worst than in other parts of the world....but let's not get into that..

QUOTE (Allizard @ Aug 24 2007, 06:25 PM) *
Unless you want me to give you a long history lesson. I'll just ended it here.


Do you know if HongKong has any laws against manufacturing airsoft?

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^^ corruption in communist countries are far worst than in other parts of the world....but let's not get into that..
Do you know if HongKong has any laws against manufacturing airsoft?


Nope... not at all. HK is still pretty much a free market. Have their own currency and stock exchange. The complete name is Hong Kong S.A.R. which means Special Administrative Region. China central government do not have direct control in HK government directives because it's specified in the agreement with England that after the hand over, HK remain mostly unchanged for the next 50 years.

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SO it's true, you do learn something everyday...

I wish jg had a website, I wanna see there Upcoming roducts compared to echo1s Upcoming products and see if they are the same...

I think echo1 has a website, since echo1 and jg are som much alike then maybe echo1 is posting the same products as jg will come out, so we won't have to look about the net for anything!
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QUOTE (p90-max @ Aug 24 2007, 08:35 PM) *
I think echo1 has a website, since echo1 and jg are som much alike then maybe echo1 is posting the same products as jg will come out, so we won't have to look about the net for anything!


The echo1 site was already posted up there a-rolleyes.gif

nah... this is the best place for new guns: http://www.airsoft-news.eu/news.php?0

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as you can see, there is a AKS-74U which might just be the gun that echo1 rebranded and renamed into CPM...
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That would be funny (however sad) if one of the chinese companies like JG got busted one day and they just dissapeared...


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QUOTE (iamthewalrus @ Aug 25 2007, 12:07 AM) *
That would be funny (however sad) if one of the chinese companies like JG got busted one day and they just dissapeared...


Oh believe me... non AGM airsoft companies would love to see this day happen. Especially Taiwanese companies.
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QUOTE (p90-max @ Aug 23 2007, 10:29 AM) *
They ended it with The new type 89 folding stock.....

QUOTE (notAnotC @ Aug 23 2007, 10:19 AM) *
I believe they are still going to produce their current models, but don't expect any new models in the future.


ooo.. then what is this? http://www.airsoft-news.eu/comment.php?comment.news.1313

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QUOTE (Revenge Seeker @ Aug 25 2007, 06:21 PM) *

I think they meant that they weren't going to design any new aeg's, not gbb's.


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QUOTE (p90-max @ Aug 23 2007, 04:29 PM) *
They are as good as marui but way cheaper


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QUOTE (The Crimson Falcon @ Aug 24 2007, 03:33 AM) *
Back on topic, JG doesn't have a website, and neither do any of the other ACM manufacturers. As I understand it, producing airsoft guns is a capital crime in mainland China, or at least merits imprisonment, so it's not wise for them to advertise on the web like that. It's best if nobody knows where they are and so forth.

Well............ an industry like that makes china earn THOUSANDS of MILLIONS of dollars ayear.......maybe thats why you see things like this:
http://www.jiadyi.com/AIM-M4.htm#
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QUOTE (Bronco5150 @ Aug 26 2007, 08:43 AM) *
No. Just No

It may hurt, you may close your eyes and put your hands over your ears, but definitely something is happening.
They are japanese..... what do japanese people love the most???........ MONEY!!!!!!!!!
If it was a money giving business, they would keep doing it.
They are not, because Chinese guns are improving on a daily basis, and they can be produced waaay cheaper, with a great similarity in quality, and many comboes that include scopes, rails, bipods, batteries, bbs, flashlights, lasers, etc, that tokyo marui will never offer, costing Three or four times more.
Please!! they don't even provide you with batteries..............
If im expending $400 on airsoft guns, I preffer three fair weapons with fair quality, fair power and in most cases highly upgradeable, one for every need, than a single TM.
And it is not just me, believe me.
Thousands of people are buying good quality china brands.
You TM guys have in most cases never used a china gun..... just automatically consider them crap.


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QUOTE (jcsnaiper @ Aug 27 2007, 07:52 PM) *
It may hurt, you may close your eyes and put your hands over your ears, but definitely something is happening.
They are japanese..... what do japanese people love the most???........ MONEY!!!!!!!!!
If it was a money giving business, they would keep doing it.
They are not, because Chinese guns are improving on a daily basis, and they can be produced waaay cheaper, with a great similarity in quality, and many comboes that include scopes, rails, bipods, batteries, bbs, flashlights, lasers, etc, that tokyo marui will never offer, costing Three or four times more.
Please!! they don't even provide you with batteries..............
If im expending $400 on airsoft guns, I preffer three fair weapons with fair quality, fair power and in most cases highly upgradeable, one for every need, than a single TM.
And it is not just me, believe me.
Thousands of people are buying good quality china brands.
You TM guys have in most cases never used a china gun..... just automatically consider them crap.

Naturally. Prejudice has a way of refuting reason.


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QUOTE (bat21win @ Aug 27 2007, 07:57 PM) *
Naturally. Prejudice has a way of refuting reason.

MMMMMM....... this is kind of confusing........ could be taken both ways.........

If you are with me on this one....... Thanks.

If you are refering to my "PREJUDICE" against TM...... I said things based on facts and reason....... I explained each and every one of my points........ I didnt just use a pocket sentence to try to destroy someone else´s point.

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QUOTE (jcsnaiper @ Aug 27 2007, 05:52 PM) *
It may hurt, you may close your eyes and put your hands over your ears, but definitely something is happening.
They are japanese..... what do japanese people love the most???........ MONEY!!!!!!!!!
If it was a money giving business, they would keep doing it.
They are not, because Chinese guns are improving on a daily basis, and they can be produced waaay cheaper, with a great similarity in quality, and many comboes that include scopes, rails, bipods, batteries, bbs, flashlights, lasers, etc, that tokyo marui will never offer, costing Three or four times more.
Please!! they don't even provide you with batteries..............
If im expending $400 on airsoft guns, I preffer three fair weapons with fair quality, fair power and in most cases highly upgradeable, one for every need, than a single TM.
And it is not just me, believe me.
Thousands of people are buying good quality china brands.
You TM guys have in most cases never used a china gun..... just automatically consider them crap.



LOL... EVERYONE loves MONEY ... not just the Japanese.
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QUOTE (Allizard @ Aug 28 2007, 12:10 AM) *
LOL... EVERYONE loves MONEY ... not just the Japanese.

The chinese do..... and they are getting it!!


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QUOTE (jcsnaiper @ Aug 27 2007, 07:52 PM) *
You TM guys have in most cases never used a china gun..... just automatically consider them crap.


QUOTE (bat21win @ Aug 27 2007, 07:57 PM) *
Naturally. Prejudice has a way of refuting reason.

QUOTE (jcsnaiper @ Aug 27 2007, 08:02 PM) *
MMMMMM....... this is kind of confusing........ could be taken both ways.........

If you are with me on this one....... Thanks.

I was referring to their prejudice against anything that is not TM. I was agreeing with you.

It doesn't matter how much we reason with them, only they can change their minds.

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post Feb 3 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (bat21win @ Aug 28 2007, 10:19 AM) *
I was referring to their prejudice against anything that is not TM. I was agreeing with you.

It doesn't matter how much we reason with them, only they can change their minds.


so if one wanted to go into bisuness with the major players in airsoft how in the world would you get ahold of any of them? go to china? how did the retailers here do it.


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is this an ultra bump or what?
QUOTE (bat21win @ Aug 28 2007, 10:19 AM)
guys READ THE DATE
AUGUST 27,2007!!!!!
a mod please close this


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[ddombrock2009] 5:46 pm: know something about gun bans? if you kill someone with your car, the legal system removes your legal ability to drive. kill someone with an assault rifle and suddenly nobody can have one...

CROSSMAN SUCKS AND DESERVE TO DIE IN A OILY DEATH THEIR GUNS WERE MADE OF!
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