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> Type 89 Version 8 Gearbox, Any Problems with it?
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post Aug 14 2006, 01:44 PM
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Well, instead of getting an ICS M4, I am now thinking of a TM Type 89. Since this gun has a new gearbox (Version 8) design, does anybody know of any problems with it? Or with the gun in general? If I plan to upgrade the gearbox, will it be able to pull a more powerful spring, such as an upgrade to 350 FPS?
Thanks for the help.

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post Aug 15 2006, 03:21 AM
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As of yet there are no problems.
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post Aug 15 2006, 09:15 AM
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But the gun is also extremely new. If there are problems (not saying there are), we probably wouldn't know about them quite yet.
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post Aug 15 2006, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (TriChrome @ Aug 15 2006, 07:15 AM) *
But the gun is also extremely new. If there are problems (not saying there are), we probably wouldn't know about them quite yet.

its a few years old, been in service (yes service) with the japanese for some time as a (anti riot weapon??) training tool, because it is similar to the real one, hence the metal body. there just isnt alot of after market parts. I think it takes normal upgrades like bearings, springs, shims, gears, etc. but I'm not sure.

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post Aug 15 2006, 05:11 PM
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Are you sure of this? I thought it just came out about a month ago?


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post Aug 15 2006, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (microbuck @ Aug 15 2006, 05:11 PM) *
Are you sure of this? I thought it just came out about a month ago?

It came out to comercial retailers a month a go. I also (recently) heard of it being a police training weapon a few years back, I think its another good addition to TM's lineup.


EDIT:I thought V8's arent upgradeable...

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post Aug 15 2006, 05:24 PM
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It hasnt been in service for years, the JSDF just bought them for training.

It is able to take all available upgrades.
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post Aug 15 2006, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Xhado @ Aug 15 2006, 05:24 PM) *
It hasnt been in service for years, the JSDF just bought them for training.

It is able to take all available upgrades.


Pfft... shows what I know. Some site claimed that it wasnt upgradeable. Those lying turds...


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The V8 may not have any problems yet but the three round burst feature is very tempremental, and thats caused alot of trouble with other guns in the past. Hopefully TM will have hammered out the kinks.


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post Aug 15 2006, 06:21 PM
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The V8 burst is compleatly different from the past burst AEGs.
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post Aug 15 2006, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (spackemknacks @ Aug 15 2006, 04:18 PM) *
The V8 may not have any problems yet but the three round burst feature is very tempremental, and thats caused alot of trouble with other guns in the past. Hopefully TM will have hammered out the kinks.


3-round before was done electrically, on the v8 it is done mechanically.
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post Aug 15 2006, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (KrYpTiK @ Aug 15 2006, 06:23 PM) *
3-round before was done electrically, on the v8 it is done mechanically.


Really? how'd they do that? Something like how a Turn signal works?

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I'm guessing it uses a gear timed so that it would activate the cut off lever after the gun fires three shots. That is what it looked like from the video, at least.
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QUOTE (Willby24 @ Aug 15 2006, 04:27 PM) *
Really? how'd they do that? Something like how a Turn signal works?


they used a 74122 one shot chip, with a variable resistor.
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The "version 8" gearbox is actually a modded version 2 gearbox. So upgrades should arrive soon.
Here is a website with pics and the 3 round burst fuction from inside.

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QUOTE (SVT98driver @ Aug 15 2006, 08:27 PM) *
The "version 8" gearbox is actually a modded version 2 gearbox. So upgrades should arrive soon.
Here is a website with pics and the 3 round burst fuction from inside.

HERE


Oh, so it is gears. I thought it would have been something along the lines of how a turn signal works, but that would just be too hard to fit into a gun, which is obviously alot smaller than a car. Gears make alot more sense, more sense than something electrical.


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Awesome link, ive been waiting to see that box.

Looks like the bevel gear has a different and more efficient design, it seems like it would require less shimming.
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QUOTE (KrYpTiK @ Aug 15 2006, 09:35 PM) *
Awesome link, ive been waiting to see that box.

Looks like the bevel gear has a different and more efficient design, it seems like it would require less shimming.

I'm not one versed in gearboxes, but if this box has similar dimensions, and similar design, will it be able to drop into a previously V2 only gun?
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its close to a V2, but not exact.
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post Aug 20 2006, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Xhado @ Aug 15 2006, 09:47 PM) *
its close to a V2, but not exact.

But hopefully they will make a m16a2 with burst. I get excited just thinking about it.


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Why not make an A4 with burst instead a-thumbsup.gif
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post Aug 20 2006, 06:17 PM
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Or an M249!! YEAH!!! no, just kidding.
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QUOTE (SVT98driver @ Aug 15 2006, 09:27 PM) *
The "version 8" gearbox is actually a modded version 2 gearbox. So upgrades should arrive soon.
Here is a website with pics and the 3 round burst fuction from inside.

HERE


Exactly what I was looking for. Maybe its me but messing with that three round burst thing from what I can see makes me think youd screw yourself over messin with it.

QUOTE (Xhado @ Aug 15 2006, 09:20 PM) *
they used a 74122 one shot chip, with a variable resistor.


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QUOTE (Xhado @ Aug 15 2006, 06:24 PM) *
It hasnt been in service for years, the JSDF just bought them for training.

Is this really true? The japanese Gov't was buying airsoft guns to train their troops with?

Forgive me, but that's just hard for me to swallow. a-confused.gif
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QUOTE (grokostimpy @ Jul 2 2007, 03:05 AM) *
Is this really true? The japanese Gov't was buying airsoft guns to train their troops with?

Forgive me, but that's just hard for me to swallow. a-confused.gif


Necropost....please check the date before you necropost. If you have a specific question for Xhado, PM him.


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