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post Apr 9 2008, 07:54 PM
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Are the internals

Crap

Medium

Good

Great

Excellent?

I'm planning on buying it. Or should I wait for the SRC version?

Is there a guide or something on how to take it apart to the internals?

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post Apr 9 2008, 10:25 PM
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Are the internals

Crap

Medium

Good

Great

Excellent?

I'm planning on buying it. Or should I wait for the SRC version?

Is there a guide or something on how to take it apart to the internals?



Great internals other than a few reported motors overheating.. For airsoft it's a standard M4 with a ris so any m4 guide will work.
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:27 PM
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might want to ask Allizard about that stuff...


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Let's put it this way; since the first day we received the new SRC RPK, which has the same internals as the AK47, we've fired a little more than 100,000 rounds at full auto, and after the first internal inspection the piston barely showed any visible wear. Keep in mind that these guns are shooting between 350 and 375 fps, so we are not talking about a weak spring. Since 100,000 rounds wasn't enough to break the piston we put everything back together and fired some more box magazines through it, and we are happy to say that the RPK is still in fantastic working order and is sitting on display in our walk-in store. 100,000 rounds of constant firing at over 350fps is harsh treatment for a gearbox and its internal parts to undertake

^Tm got pwned.
Even SRC guns can last 100k rounds.
You must re-shim and re-lube MPEG before using them and re-lube after every 25k rounds.
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (xsboredom @ Apr 9 2008, 08:25 PM) *
Great internals other than a few reported motors overheating.. For airsoft it's a standard M4 with a ris so any m4 guide will work.


Hey thanks what motor should I get if it burns out?

I here it is the first batch/generation of the VFC 416s that have the motor overheating what about the recent ones?
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:07 PM
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Hi there, I got 3 HKs416 now. Two new ones and one from the first batch.
The first edition is not so good, there you should update the motor.

Meantime I build full systema in one and and the other one with madbull and Prometheus.
But for a Stock Airsoft the internals are good. Depends then on how you are playing. For a harcore games you should upgrade some parts.
My internals so far :

Guarder SP 130 Spring
Phoenix High Protection Gears
Prometheus 6.03mm Tight Bore Inner Barrel
Systema Complete MECHA-BOX 7mm
Systema Advance Hop Up
Systema Hop Up bucking
Systema Magnum Motor
Systema Spring Guide w/ Bearings
Systema AREA 1000 Piston Head w/ Bearings
Systema TN Coated Piston
Systema Anti-Reverse Latch
Systema M4 Wiring (To Rear)
Systema Cut Off Lever

If you have more questions on parts just ask .....

here a photo of my updatete HKs




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I love my 416, internals are great!
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I love my 416 as well but the stock internals are mediocre. Plastic Cyl head, clear plastic piston and piston head.
Of course the only thing original in my GB is the shell itself.
Now its a beast and my favorite gun that I own.

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post Apr 11 2008, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Whytfargorn @ Apr 10 2008, 11:07 AM) *
Hi there, I got 3 HKs416 now. Two new ones and one from the first batch.
The first edition is not so good, there you should update the motor.

Meantime I build full systema in one and and the other one with madbull and Prometheus.
But for a Stock Airsoft the internals are good. Depends then on how you are playing. For a harcore games you should upgrade some parts.
My internals so far :

Guarder SP 130 Spring
Phoenix High Protection Gears
Prometheus 6.03mm Tight Bore Inner Barrel
Systema Complete MECHA-BOX 7mm
Systema Advance Hop Up
Systema Hop Up bucking
Systema Magnum Motor
Systema Spring Guide w/ Bearings
Systema AREA 1000 Piston Head w/ Bearings
Systema TN Coated Piston
Systema Anti-Reverse Latch
Systema M4 Wiring (To Rear)
Systema Cut Off Lever

If you have more questions on parts just ask .....

here a photo of my updatete HKs




I envy you I'm just looking to extend life of internals and safe running I just want to have lots of accuracy firepower and don't want to go over 350fps.
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