I'm lookin for a really good sidearm, being a sniper. I want something full auto, small and portable, really durable and with good velocity (at least 370 with .2 g) as well as good range and accuracy.
Any ideas?

Price range?

Drummaster39?

+1, its hard to give you suggestions without a price range.

But I can give you this:

Mp5K (galaxy? TM?) (galaxy is around 330fps)

P90 (E1, TM) (E1 is around 390FPS)

Tm will be in the low 300's.

If you want to go GBB, the new KWA NS2 M11 is freaking SUPERB...(I have one)

This post has been edited by jonathanMP5: Mar 18 2010, 08:25 PM

price range...under 200.
id rather not get a gas gun, they seem like kind of a pain.

GBB SMG's are a bit different than their rifle counterparts. We have over 5k through the KWA m11, and no problems what so ever, just keep them clean and lube em up.

I would definitely recommend it to you with confidence that you will enjoy it.

It has a crazy ROF...28rps on full auto. And decent accuracy out to around 80 feet. You can't do anything but smile once you empty a 50 round mag in 2 seconds. And the NS2 gas system is super efficient.

This post has been edited by jonathanMP5: Mar 19 2010, 05:25 PM

TM Glock?

KWA M11 is totally worth it.

Its a hell of a lot of fun to shoot.

Large amount of intimidation factor that comes with it as well.

People duck and cover when they hear it go off.

A used TM P90 or MP5k

That sounds good it's just the fact of dealing with the gas. How much can I shoot until I have to use more?

On a completely unrelated note relating to something you said, I don't use lube at all...is it really that necessary?

Gas is not as bad or hard to use as people make it seem.

Gas goes into the magazines and only a short 3 second burst into the nozzle is all that is needed. Most gas guns use green gas but that crap's expensive so go to evike.com, buy a metal propane adapter from TSD (it has a sillicone well built in for $18) go to walmart, buy a propane tank (the ones for camping or the big green bottles) and have at it.


When I was a sniper, I used a Well MP7 AEP and I loved it. Best little gun I ever owned.

So you just use the big green propane takes, like the ones for little portable gas grills? And put it on the adapter and that huge bottle just hangs out of your gun? Sorry if I'm threadjacking.

No not at all. Once you put the propane adapter on, fill the tiny resovoir with sillicone, close it, put the tip of the adpater into the gas hole on your gas magazine, push down for 3 seconds then put the propane in a pouch or bag. Yes you can use those little green bottles for lanterns or gas grills. I like them better than green gas because it's the same thing only a heck of a lot cheaper at $2 a bottle instead of like $12 for green gas.

SOME guns require an external gas rig like some paintball guns but most do not. The gas is chambered in the magazines.

This post has been edited by Deadlyapollo: Mar 21 2010, 02:56 PM

The kwa m11's are sweet. I got to use one for a game and I loved it the rof is incredible and it was fairly accurate for cqb. It would be safe to say you would get 2 mags worth of bb's on one fill of gas since the ns2 system is amazing. If you could find one a kwa glock 18 with extended mag is also nice. Smaller than the m11 and has a rediculous rof as well.

+1 both those are amazing full auto gas gun
And on that note, gas guns make the best secondary, because A. Propane is cheap and effective B. They sound better than aegs in my opinion C. They may not make the best primary, just because of how expensive mags are but you only need 2 or 3 if your using it as a secondary