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RunnerGunner
If you check out the Evike Facebook page, they posted pictures of the unreleased WE G17.
Ill put up some pictures in a sec...

Hopefully they are able to fill the KWA Glock void.

Right off the bat, I can tell this isnt a newest version Glock. The grip isn't gen4. Also, is seems as though they may have used the serial number bar on the front of the frame as a safety. Hopefully They make this is a little more realistic. Im mostly concerned about the actual quality though.
psychobunny
I don't think anyone is gonna model their glocks after the Gen 4 at least for a while. The Gen 3 is pretty tried and true. Having adjustable back straps would be cool but otherwise the updates wouldn't really matter when they translate to airsoft.

But on to the actual product. I don't really see a need for it. I already don't really care for WE's products and this isn't really changing my opinion. Assuming they don't go all stupid and make anything proprietary you really just have a TM or KSC clone. China's got that covered between Meister, ARMY, and those obscure companies that copy KSC/KWA. And then after that you could just go with TM or KWA for the original.

However I'm all for them to prove me wrong and give a product that's more reliable than getting one of the Chinese clones. Although this could really go either way.
Cardboard Box
I'm somewhat interested in this. If WE pulls off a quality job and makes it consistently TM or KWA compatible, I might look into picking one up. I'd be more for KJW making a Glock, but we'll see.
psychobunny
QUOTE (Cardboard Box @ Oct 25 2011, 10:02 PM) *
I'm somewhat interested in this. If WE pulls off a quality job and makes it consistently TM or KWA compatible, I might look into picking one up. I'd be more for KJW making a Glock, but we'll see.


KJW does make a pretty decent TM system glock. Just not a full sized 17.
alberty
I'm wondering if this will need to be sold in "halves" like Evike does for other models right now, haha.

Regardless of everyone's opinions about WE itself, I am interested in seeing a (hopefully) easily-available-in-the-US G17 repliac being released. You know, since the older replicas are a bit harder to acquire due to legal issues, and the new KWA ATP wasn't so great (from what I've heard from local users and their experience with it).

I think KJW's G23/19 stuff is proprietary (I am not actually sure). I don't mind way too much about WE's proprietary stuff since that just means I that people sell them used for cheap, haha. Again, not gonna start a WE praising session here, just saying that it's not a stopper to me.

BUT can't say anything until we actually find out.
skyrider
Kjw is tm compatible. Looks like a tm clone.
RunnerGunner
I saw a few internal pictures of the WE G17, and they did look to be a TM clone. I cant be sure though, because it was a long time since I was working on that TM G17.
spider_child


TM Clone
AKAKman
I think WE has already proved themselves to make anything BUT quality guns. Their pistols all have crap pot metal parts and use the lowest metal alloys and plastics availible.

Having owned both a KJW and WE, I cant tell you the difference is day and night. I have yet to try out a KJW Glock....but I'd skip any NEW WE any day. Even TM Glocks will be better than this...in stock form too.
alberty
Well, it's to fill in the niche for a cheap TM Glock clone besides the current Army/KJW ones. There's both higher end and lower end brands in airsoft for everybody.
skyrider
Picking up a used Tm glock is 10x better than buying a clone.
AirsoftRepairGuy(Hans17)
Most of WE's newer products have been of higher quality material and seem to have better QC still at a low price. TM's will always be amazing but if you just want a cheap fun gun to mess with or fully upgrade clones are just for that exactly.
jIMMY37
Awesome, another par level gun that we get to pay to R&D for we tech. *twirls a finger*
psychobunny
http://www.rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&a...&cateId=122

well. they're cheap? LOL idk what else to say.
alberty
That's pretty much my point for this. It's a new cheap clone/addition to the Glock replicas out there, able to handle green gas out of the box.

We don't need to have a WE sucks discussion here--just keep in mind it's an option there for those who want it.
jIMMY37
Do we need another option? If you have the choice between ten different things and about five of them are the same, what's the point? And don't say it's a cheap alternative when there's a few other just as cheap alternatives.

I'll just stick to my 100$ KWA G18c as a cheaper alternative....
alberty
Right, but I don't see anywhere where you can get a brand new KWA G18C for $100 stateside from a major retailer. If the WE G17 doesn't face legal issues for importation, then it's a stateside-retailer-available option for a 1:1 G17 GBB that, according to other users, is also TM-parts-compatible by being a clone, but with the stock parts setup for green gas. Of course, we can only speculate those aspects until it actually is released.

Edit: corrected by spider_child about size
spider_child
QUOTE (alberty @ Oct 28 2011, 05:49 PM) *
Right, but I don't see anywhere where you can get a brand new KWA G18C for $100 stateside from a major retailer. If the WE G17 doesn't face legal issues for importation, then it's a stateside-retailer-available option for a 1:1 G17 GBB that, according to other users, is also TM-parts-compatible by being a clone, but with the stock parts setup for green gas. Of course, we can only speculate those aspects until it actually is released.


Marui-based Glocks are not 1:1.
Dmitri
I'll pass on this. I have an Umarex Tactical Force C.O.M.B.A.T. CO2 pistol. Costs the same, but mags are cheaper (hurray non-Crosman stick mags!) and the gun won't jam NEARLY as easily as most GBB's.

It'd be interesting to see if WE makes a CO2-compatible one, though.
RunnerGunner
I may pick up one for a review.

And I would just stay away from KWA glocks now.
All of the left over ones out there are probably 5 years old with thousands of rounds through them, without replacement parts. They WERE the best Glock, but being that old and having no parts makes them a bad buy.
psychobunny
or just go KSC. Those are still pretty available.
blaudeman123
HEY guys, Im actually selling a WE g17. Please PM if you are interested. They still are not released in the US. Its quaintly is amazing!!! much better than my gen3 TM, even with a custom slide and barrel.
skyrider
LOL better than your TM glock...
jIMMY37
QUOTE (blaudeman123 @ Nov 19 2011, 08:28 PM) *
HEY guys, Im actually selling a WE g17. Please PM if you are interested. They still are not released in the US. Its quaintly is amazing!!! much better than my gen3 TM, even with a custom slide and barrel.



Who's this guy and where'd he get his :censored2: "tm" glock to compare his china glock to?
blaudeman123
QUOTE (jIMMY37 @ Nov 20 2011, 12:53 AM) *
Who's this guy and where'd he get his censored2.gif "tm" glock to compare his china glock to?


LOL. I swear the WE frame's polymer feels alot better than the TM abs. My PGC slide and barrel are pretty darn wobbly and the WE feels really sturdy. The TM is more accurate of course but where the WE wins is in mags, of course. The TM with the WE mags is great. My TM is a year old with TONS of use, so that is part of it aswell. I can take so comparison pictures and what not if anyone wants. I have a gen3 glock with a PGC slide and barrel kit(really nice) and some extra upgrades.
skyrider
I guess I can understand WE's frame feeling better if they made it more heavy weight but my PGC fit to frame is perfect, no wobbles. You must have not fitted it right. I also doubt the WE fitment is not wobbling at all.

Expand on why you think WE mags are better than TM mags??
blaudeman123
QUOTE (skyrider @ Nov 20 2011, 02:13 AM) *
I guess I can understand WE's frame feeling better if they made it more heavy weight but my PGC fit to frame is perfect, no wobbles. You must have not fitted it right. I also doubt the WE fitment is not wobbling at all.

Expand on why you think WE mags are better than TM mags??


They seem to hold more gas and put out more consistent powerful shots. My TM mags don't really give the gun much ummf. and the high flow valve I do have on one preforms consistently worse than stock valves. I do not think the WE is better AT ALL, I realize I made it sound like it. It was more of a surprise. They definitely stepped up their game, the manual also says it is a new series of higher end GBBs. I have never had a WE gbb pistol, other than a knight hawk temporally. I mainly use TM and KWA. So my experience with WE is limited, but I know their pistols suck.
Kavurcen
QUOTE (blaudeman123 @ Nov 19 2011, 05:28 PM) *
much better than my gen3 TM

QUOTE (blaudeman123 @ Nov 19 2011, 10:30 PM) *
I do not think the WE is better AT ALL, I realize I made it sound like it.

Yes, you very much did.
skyrider
Sounds more like something wrong with your TM magazines?

My TM magazines perform perfectly fine power wise (very consistent) and I get 2 magazines per fill of gas (this is with a metal slide and upgraded recoil/hammer spring.
blaudeman123
QUOTE (skyrider @ Nov 20 2011, 01:55 AM) *
Sounds more like something wrong with your TM magazines?

My TM magazines perform perfectly fine power wise (very consistent) and I get 2 magazines per fill of gas (this is with a metal slide and upgraded recoil/hammer spring.

Something could easily be wrong with them. I use them alot. I eventually plan on getting around to giving them some TLC. I do not plan on keeping the WE, so im on the TM side of things. After I give the TM so basic upgrades/tune ups, I should be back in business with it.
skyrider
Yea I've owned many TMs and the glocks are my fav. PM me if you need help with anything.
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