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#1 b240000

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 05:36 PM

So just now my TM Spas 12 stopped working. I pumped the gun and when I came to pull the trigger nothing happened.
The safety doesn't work at all once engaged and the gun won't fire. The pump is locked forward as well.

I don't know enough about the Spas to dissasemble it, but does anyone know how I could fix this?
Has someone had a simmilar problem with the M3 series?

Thanks for any help.
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#2 Simon 23259

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE (b240000 @ Nov 5 2010, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So just now my TM Spas 12 stopped working. I pumped the gun and when I came to pull the trigger nothing happened.
The safety doesn't work at all once engaged and the gun won't fire. The pump is locked forward as well.

I don't know enough about the Spas to dissasemble it, but does anyone know how I could fix this?
Has someone had a simmilar problem with the M3 series?

Thanks for any help.



I too am having the same issue, just this morning I was shooting it when it jammed several times, I unjammed it but the last time I got all the bb's out I'm having the same problem as you. I don't know how to take the gun apart, I'm considering looking for a repair service to fix the gun aswell, I think it could be damaged.
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#3 Automobilie

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:31 AM

Take the hand grip part off. Then the shell over the body should be able to be popped off and that'll reveal your trigger mech, piston mech, and shell holding mech.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:42 AM

Sorry, but trishots are some of the most complex airsoft guns on the market, you should take it to a professional so you don't risk raking it apart and never being able to put it back together...
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#5 Simon 23259

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (somebody1 @ Nov 20 2010, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, but trishots are some of the most complex airsoft guns on the market, you should take it to a professional so you don't risk raking it apart and never being able to put it back together...


Thats what I'm afraid of, I gave Wolfarmouries.co.uk a call and they said I should clean the gun, apparently the Bio degradable 0.2BB I was using is crap quality and probably shattered inside it.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 12:40 PM

don't use bio BBs, it not safe for your gun and its not safe for players!
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#7 Simon 23259

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 12:56 PM

Thanks for the warning, I never knew. I want the folding stock for my Spas but they seem impossible to track down.
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#8 mrquackbunny

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (somebody1 @ Nov 20 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't use bio BBs, it not safe for your gun and its not safe for players!

Cheap bios are. Bioshot BBS and G&G Bios are perfectly safe and they are amazing quality.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (Simon 23259 @ Nov 20 2010, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the warning, I never knew. I want the folding stock for my Spas but they seem impossible to track down.

Good luck with finding one of those a-wink.gif

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 05:20 PM

Here are your options if you want to buy a spas 12 stock,

1. Put up a WTB thread, wait like a year and hope you get lucky 1outof100 chance at best
2. Well lets just face it, you cant buy a real steel as its been out of production for 10 years, and you cant buy and airsoft version because the stock has been out of production for 2 years.
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#11 ILike1337Pie

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 06:12 PM

Oh look at Mr. 47 posts trying to be helpful.

Click here OP
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#12 Simon 23259

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (somebody1 @ Nov 20 2010, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are your options if you want to buy a spas 12 stock,

1. Put up a WTB thread, wait like a year and hope you get lucky 1outof100 chance at best
2. Well lets just face it, you cant buy a real steel as its been out of production for 10 years, and you cant buy and airsoft version because the stock has been out of production for 2 years.


Damn, but thanks to Ilike1337pie (mr 136 posts) I have a chance but its not good, I need it shipped to the UK. Shipping will cost a censored2.gif load

Edited by Simon 23259, 20 November 2010 - 08:52 PM.

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#13 ILike1337Pie

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Simon 23259 @ Nov 20 2010, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn, but thanks to Ilike1337pie (mr 136 posts) I have a chance but its not good, I need it shipped to the UK. Shipping will cost a censored2.gif load


Shipping is around 25$...
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#14 Automobilie

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:23 AM

I think Redwolf is in the UK.
Anyways, just take it apart and put it back together. Or try a clone M3 first. I took a couple apart twice and could fit about any screw where it needs to go.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 01:49 AM

QUOTE (ILike1337Pie @ Nov 20 2010, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh look at Mr. 47 posts trying to be helpful.

Click here OP

No way, wow, I spent too long looking for that stock, well, wow, good job!
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#16 Simon 23259

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:51 AM

QUOTE (somebody1 @ Nov 21 2010, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No way, wow, I spent too long looking for that stock, well, wow, good job!


Ignore him, I found the post helpful, thank you! But the stock in the link is a KTW and my Spas is TM, would it fit? I think I heard somewhere that the KTW has some odd measurements.

Edited by Simon 23259, 21 November 2010 - 05:54 AM.

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#17 Miah

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 02:36 PM

Believe they're supposed to work, but the mounting bolts are different sizes between the TM & the KTW. You can't use the bolt that comes with the stock on a TM IIRC. Think you need a TM bolt or hit up a hardware store for a generic.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 12:26 AM

So other than taking the gun to a tech how could I do it myself?
This is just in case I can't find someone who knows how to repair the TM Spas 12s.


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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:08 PM

Most likely (this is hypothetical), but you probably did a half pump once during operation, and either the trinozzle is damaged or a BB is jammed in the loading mech. This is the most common problem with trishot shotguns.
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#20 b240000

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE (aznriptide859 @ Dec 17 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most likely (this is hypothetical), but you probably did a half pump once during operation, and either the trinozzle is damaged or a BB is jammed in the loading mech. This is the most common problem with trishot shotguns.

If the trinozzle is damaged where could I find a replacement? If it's a bb jam is it as easy as sticking the umjaming rod in?
Lastly do you or anyone else here know anyone who could repair trishot shotguns?
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 11:26 PM

If the nozzle is damaged then your best bet will be a DE/TSD/UTG clone donor. There have been a few individuals who intended to make replacement/upgrade nozzles, but I don't recall any of the projects ever being fully completed.
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Posted 26 December 2010 - 12:03 AM

QUOTE (Automobilie @ Nov 21 2010, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Redwolf is in the UK.
Anyways, just take it apart and put it back together. Or try a clone M3 first. I took a couple apart twice and could fit about any screw where it needs to go.

Nothing to add here other than the European Office is for wholesale only. That would mean shipping from HK by default.
<at>Miah- Definitely heard the same thing. The closest was one guy whole had created an Inventor .iam- Custom CNCing does take time. Donors are certainly the way to go until someone fully realizes the potential market of people looking to upgrade/replace their trinozzles.
To the OP- good luck in fixing it all.
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