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#1 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:06 PM

hey im most likely getting a psg-1, all I want to do is put a higher power spring as the guy already put a scs/systema combo in the hop up, what spring percentage will get me to 500 fps?, can the stock gears take it, I heard rumors it can, I will also sorbothane the cylinder head to relieve stress.
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#2 TheFallenHero

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:20 PM

It would help if you put the manufacturer on there so we are not telling you parts to buy for an echo 1 when you might have a tokyo mauri...

#3 EDI 1st

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (TheFallenHero @ Jul 29 2011, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would help if you put the manufacturer on there so we are not telling you parts to buy for an echo 1 when you might have a tokyo mauri...


Are you kidding me?
TM is the ONLY company that makes PSG-1.
For real....Fallen...stop making yourself sounds like you know everything....
Strike 2 for you from me.


To OP

External,
G&G MBK
G&G RIS

The stock TM plastic parts makes the gun wobble since plastic is flexible.


Internal I'd get the PDI hop chamber for it if you can.....

For fps upgrades, go straight for the Systema FTK.
No need to be worry about if the gears and etc can handle the force or not.

The 19 teeth sector gear can pull springs easier than the regular 16 teeth.

Get a G&P M170 Motor.

Edited by EDI 1st, 29 July 2011 - 12:53 PM.

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#4 woogie_man

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:54 PM

TM is the only company that makes a PSG-1, as of right now...... do a little more research and you would have found that out, and not looked like a putz ;)


You are going to want to get the upgraded metal body, as well as the chamber block for the rifle. These two parts will make the rifle MUCH more stable and will remove just about all of the wobble the rifle has already.

#5 Star_folder

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:00 PM

Watch it, EDI 1st. It is against the rules to be mean to new members.

That being said, the PSG-1 uses medium length motors, which G&P does not make. Unless you want to custom build one, I believe you can find medium length china clone motors. They will be more than powerful enough to get the job done.

#6 EDI 1st

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:09 PM

Sorry, couldn't take a guy who joins the forum and just started saying that APS2 has no upgrades and that Echo 1 makes PSG....
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#7 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:31 PM

well im low on dough and cant afford a ftk, as for the chamber block ill prob make my own, or something, and I heard the stock motor pulls any spring up to 300% with ease
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#8 sniperx2s

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:12 PM

QUOTE (okamiboy @ Jul 29 2011, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well im low on dough and cant afford a ftk, as for the chamber block ill prob make my own, or something, and I heard the stock motor pulls any spring up to 300% with ease

or u can just get a real sword svd, put an m150 and a new bucking and call it done.

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#9 TheFallenHero

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (EDI 1st @ Jul 29 2011, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, couldn't take a guy who joins the forum and just started saying that APS2 has no upgrades and that Echo 1 makes PSG....


I didnt saying anything about ASP anywhere. I posted here and I posted a question about a JG Bar 10. And nothing else.

#10 EDI 1st

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (TheFallenHero @ Jul 29 2011, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didnt saying anything about ASP anywhere. I posted here and I posted a question about a JG Bar 10. And nothing else.


http://www.airsoftfo...h...&p=18541821

One of "the other two" was the L96.
And it's APS not ASP.


To the OP & Sniperx2s
I'd get the RS SVD too.
Cheaper and no need for any further upgrades other than the spring and bucking.
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#11 Star_folder

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 04:08 PM

The PSG-1 is not a gun to work on if you are low on funds. It is one of the most expensive builds that you can take on. Between the metal body and block, you've got to get the systema ftk, the gears are not strong. The motor, well, I've also heard it can pull up to a 300% spring, but you will need an very strong battery to do so. And you still have the worse problem, the cut off lever. Once, there was a replacement for it, but now there isn't. You either have to be lucky enough to find someone selling one, or steal it, cause they are no longer made, and aren't in any stores. If you custom make anything, custom machine a new cut off lever. The stock one is pot metal and will die sooner or later.

Good luck, you'll need it.

#12 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

1.im trading some stuff for a psg-1, im not buying one, 2.I love psg-1s, 3. ive never heard of anyone breaking the cutoff lever 4. I want 500 fps with great compression so im probably going with a 250% spring, 5. I have a 9.6 5000mah battery that im wiring to the outside with a custom battery pouch, 6. chamber blocks are pricey, can I just crimp a pvc pipe on for support instead, so the pvc pipe will be like c shaped? 7. will a 250% spring do a lot of damage, I will have a 3/16'' 70 durometer sorbopad take most of the shock.

EDIT:the guys giving me a spare gearset

heres a pic of what I mean of pvc chamber block


Edited by okamiboy, 29 July 2011 - 05:29 PM.

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3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
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#13 sniperx2s

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:32 PM

u should talk the wonko the sane. I think he is selling his PSG-1 for like 500 dollars but no gearbox. waiting for the fusion gearbox to come out... or is it out already, idk.

<AT>TheFallenHero

yeah one was the aps2 and the other was the socom gear r700. APS2 has a lot of upgrades, and the socom gear r700 is 100% vsr-10 compatible.

http://www.youtube.c...nel_video_title

here's his video

Edited by sniperx2s, 29 July 2011 - 05:35 PM.


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#14 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:35 PM

<AT>sniper im already trading for one and I get a crapload of extra parts
need parts for v2 aegs? contact me
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jericho 941:owned
Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
and much more...

#15 sniperx2s

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (okamiboy @ Jul 29 2011, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<AT>sniper im already trading for one and I get a crapload of extra parts

ok then. Its gonna be a long road ahead to get a psg-1 to shoot as well as a RS SVD. and its gonna be much more expensive. but if you have your heart set on it, then good luck :)

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#16 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:45 PM

I had an a&k drag once and was not a huge fan of the feel, I just want a psg-1 because its a head turner, plus I love mgs1
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#17 sniperx2s

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:05 PM

dude, the A&K SVD feels NOTHING like the a real sword SVD. they are in completely differeng leagues. Comparing a A&K SVD to a Real Sword SVD is like comparing a volvo SUV to a Bugatti. The A&K is the poor mans SVD. as for the PSG-1 being a head turner, I definitely agree. When u see everyone with a m4, then u see another guy with a psg-1, its really an oh wow moment. but the same can be said with a real sword SVD. I was at a game with my rs svd, and I went back like 3 weeks later, the people on the field still remembers me as "that guy with the real sword SVD"

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#18 okamiboy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

yea I hope to be the psg-1 guy, and I thought the a&k is the same shape and dimensions as the RS?

anyways with near perfect compression and a 6.03 tbb, can I pull off 500 fps with a 200% spring?
need parts for v2 aegs? contact me
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Current primary- okamiboy customized echo 1 Sr-25
--------------------------------------------------
Tokyo Marui Psg-1:owned
jericho 941:owned
Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
and much more...

#19 ILike1337Pie

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (sniperx2s @ Jul 29 2011, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was at a game with my rs svd, and I went back like 3 weeks later, the people on the field still remembers me as "that guy with the real sword SVD"


OP: PSG-1s blow. I have one with like 1700 bucks put into mine, and it craps out like an hour into every game. don't do it, its too expensive to have a paperweight.

Edited by vietec, 01 August 2011 - 01:12 AM.
took out inflammatory remark, only warning.


#20 okamiboy

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

regardless, I still want one, as ive stated I cant afford the rs svd, im trading for the psg-1, I just need a person to CNC machine me a steel cutoff lever and ar latch
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Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
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#21 major9

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (okamiboy @ Jul 31 2011, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
regardless, I still want one, as ive stated I cant afford the rs svd, im trading for the psg-1, I just need a person to CNC machine me a steel cutoff lever and ar latch

Either suck it up and find a local machinist, or possibly talk to user "shlunka".

#22 sniperx2s

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (ILike1337Pie @ Jul 31 2011, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt anyone cares that much about some 14 year old kid with a mommy money bought Real Sword SVD that much...

OP: PSG-1s blow. I have one with like 1700 bucks put into mine, and it craps out like an hour into every game. don't do it, its too expensive to have a paperweight.

my parents don't pay for ANY of my airsoft stuff.

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#23 okamiboy

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:51 PM

Hey guys thanks for all the help, I found a site that sells replacement cutoff levers so I bought 2, now I have 3, so if it ever fails I think im set, as for the ar latch, if it fails ill buy a ftk, thanks for the help everyone
need parts for v2 aegs? contact me
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Current primary- okamiboy customized echo 1 Sr-25
--------------------------------------------------
Tokyo Marui Psg-1:owned
jericho 941:owned
Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
and much more...

#24 Wonko The Sane

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE (okamiboy @ Aug 1 2011, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys thanks for all the help, I found a site that sells replacement cutoff levers so I bought 2, now I have 3, so if it ever fails I think im set, as for the ar latch, if it fails ill buy a ftk, thanks for the help everyone


Cut offers levers most likely won't fail on you, bit of a waste money there. The anti reversal latch like this one, http://www.airsoftgl...roducts_id=4054 will be what fails and turns your gearbox to useless :pain:. If you ever find a TGS Steel one, then you will be set.

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#25 Star_folder

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 07:27 AM

I agree, cut off lever isn't what's important here, the ARL is what you need to get machined before you wear it down. The ftk's don't come with arls, only the gears. You really should get that thing machined first, and never have to worry about it again.

#26 okamiboy

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 10:33 AM

well ill just buy 1 replacement cutoff lever then, and ill try to get a ar latch milled
need parts for v2 aegs? contact me
--------------------------------------------------
Current primary- okamiboy customized echo 1 Sr-25
--------------------------------------------------
Tokyo Marui Psg-1:owned
jericho 941:owned
Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
and much more...

#27 okamiboy

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 11:16 AM

correct me if im wrong but, http://shop.ehobbyas...sional-set.html, n the description (although not pictured), it says it comes with the anti reversal latch
need parts for v2 aegs? contact me
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Current primary- okamiboy customized echo 1 Sr-25
--------------------------------------------------
Tokyo Marui Psg-1:owned
jericho 941:owned
Aftermath Mp5:owned
jg m16:owned
4x Jg m4s:owned
3x Jg mp5s: all owned
a&k dragunov:owned
aftermath ak: owned
cyma048 metal mp5: owned
aftermath m9: owned
gas super 9 sniper rifle: owned
snow wolf barret m99:owned
agm l96: owned
crapload of springers:owned
and much more...

#28 Star_folder

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (okamiboy @ Aug 2 2011, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
correct me if im wrong but, http://shop.ehobbyas...sional-set.html, n the description (although not pictured), it says it comes with the anti reversal latch

I was under the impression that they didn't come with arls. The one's I've heard about didn't come with them, but I could be mistaken. I know the ARLs are a problem, and of the other sites I checked out, none said they came with an arl. I guess you could pick one up and find out. But I'm fairly certain that they don't come with ARLs.

#29 -Crispy-

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 12:52 PM

I've got some extra PSG1 bevels gears if you ever need any. :-) Also, LYT (Guarder) T65 gears are the same external dimensions as PSG1 gears. If you can pick one up for cheap, the gears are much stronger and nicer than Systema.

Edited by Crispy Technician, 02 August 2011 - 12:54 PM.

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