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California Airsoft Laws


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#1 THE sergeant

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 03:10 AM

I'm about to buy my first airsoft gun and I'm concerned over legal stuff cause I'm a minor. I've been looking around at some of the topics for laws in California. I didn't find anything convincing so I decided to do some research myself and I finally this. These are the official California Codes. I got them from ca.gov.

California Penal Code Part 4 Title 2 Chapter 6 Article 1 Sections 12550-12556

I thought section 12556 was very interesting, especially part 13 where it gives public-display exemptions to translucent and brightly colored guns! I am not planning to be a serious airsofter (...yet) so those cheap, different color pistols they sell at sporting good stores are fine with me.

Edited by THE sergeant, 17 August 2006 - 02:10 PM.

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#2 Airsoft Monkey

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 03:25 AM

nice find.. however its been posted elsewhere around here, I've seen it.. but it is a good find.

#3 SNAFU

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:57 PM

So if I play in a creek area that cannot be seen by anyone on the street it is legal? Also Does that mean I cannot put a cover over the orange tip? Or paint over it? a-crazy.gif

#4 Airsoft Monkey

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE (SNAFU @ Aug 19 2006, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So if I play in a creek area that cannot be seen by anyone on the street it is legal? Also Does that mean I cannot put a cover over the orange tip? Or paint over it? a-crazy.gif



If no one can see you, that doesn't make it a legal area. And you only need to orange tip during shipping, otherwise it's legal to have it off.

#5 TEN36VX

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:39 AM

QUOTE (BravesFan @ Aug 19 2006, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And you only need to orange tip during shipping, otherwise it's legal to have it off.

Not true. PC 12553(a)(1) is interpreted to include the orange tip. Our DA will file on it.

12556 is probably the most restrictive of the laws. I'd say it was put in there to make people play responsibly and decrease the chances of acidental shootings. Most law enforcement actions with regards to these laws are going to be spirit vs. letter, as long as you don't have a bad attitude.
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#6 Von Luck

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 01:17 PM

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This is christal clear that you must have the orange tip no matter what in CA.

This is a good example of State law that complies with Federal Law.

NY city has complete ban on airsoft guns. But this does not. It's a lot more restrictive than the Federal law, but these should be fine.

It requires airsofter to be 18 years of age. And it requires a sporting event to be certified or regulated.

What's completely out of the hands of this law is the completly toy like guns. Translucent, or in neon colors. Those are so obviously toys, you can display in public. Only display. Not to aim at people or threaten or carry out a bank robbery. Even if it's completely translucent, the bank people falsely believe it to be dangerous, you do the time.


I actually think it's a good law. Kids below 18 should play with completly toy-like guns. Event should be regulated. And airsoft guns should not be flashed in public. Practically that's all this law wants. Anybody with a common sense would follow these anyhow.

I only wish that in the sporting event, on the field only, the orange tip could be covered only during the time of the event. The CA law would be perfect otherwise.



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Edited by Von Luck, 04 October 2006 - 01:23 PM.

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#7 joker8baller

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Von Luck @ Oct 4 2006, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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This is christal clear that you must have the orange tip no matter what in CA.

This is a good example of State law that complies with Federal Law.

NY city has complete ban on airsoft guns. But this does not. It's a lot more restrictive than the Federal law, but these should be fine.

It requires airsofter to be 18 years of age. And it requires a sporting event to be certified or regulated.

What's completely out of the hands of this law is the completly toy like guns. Translucent, or in neon colors. Those are so obviously toys, you can display in public. Only display. Not to aim at people or threaten or carry out a bank robbery. Even if it's completely translucent, the bank people falsely believe it to be dangerous, you do the time.
I actually think it's a good law. Kids below 18 should play with completly toy-like guns. Event should be regulated. And airsoft guns should not be flashed in public. Practically that's all this law wants. Anybody with a common sense would follow these anyhow.

I only wish that in the sporting event, on the field only, the orange tip could be covered only during the time of the event. The CA law would be perfect otherwise.
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I'm sorry, but I have heard at many places/forums that you are allowed to take off the orange tip as long as you are at a REAL field.
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#8 amzedbyhim

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (joker8baller @ Oct 4 2006, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but I have heard at many places/forums that you are allowed to take off the orange tip as long as you are at a REAL field.

That's true. you do not have to be 18 to airsoft, but you must be supervised by an adult if you are a minor.


QUOTE (M16rifleman248 @ Oct 4 2006, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's lucky I didnt get to him first. Id shove that gun so far up his butt he would think he's in Michael Jacksons house.

#9 joker8baller

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE (amzedbyhim @ Oct 5 2006, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true. you do not have to be 18 to airsoft, but you must be supervised by an adult if you are a minor.

Eh? I was talking about how you can play with non-orange tipped weapons at a legitimate field.
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#10 Von Luck

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 10:58 AM

Ah, that's not something you ask. That's something you do. Geesh!

I mean, if you are a sniper, would you crawl around with a blazing orange color rifle tip? But CA law is clear, any obstruction of any effort to remove or cover the blazing orange color is illegal. But fields are private fields, that means if no one calls police to that field, police cannot enter without permission or warrent. So people do what they want, which may not be legal.

It's kinda like your parents letting you have a sip of champaign or beer when you are underage. It's illegal, but hey, it's a one time thing, and you don't have a police in your house, so who's going to know? People do that kind of illegal things.
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#11 PILMAN

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE (Von Luck @ Oct 5 2006, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, that's not something you ask. That's something you do. Geesh!

I mean, if you are a sniper, would you crawl around with a blazing orange color rifle tip? But CA law is clear, any obstruction of any effort to remove or cover the blazing orange color is illegal. But fields are private fields, that means if no one calls police to that field, police cannot enter without permission or warrent. So people do what they want, which may not be legal.

It's kinda like your parents letting you have a sip of champaign or beer when you are underage. It's illegal, but hey, it's a one time thing, and you don't have a police in your house, so who's going to know? People do that kind of illegal things.


Sorry to say but that's equivalent to saying you can smoke marijuana in your home and the police can't enter because they don't have permission. The fact of the matter is if they have reasonable proof or see you with the gun without the tip they have every right to enter the property and take advantage of the law. It would be a different situation if you had orange tips and it was an organized event you wouldn't be breaking the law.

#12 doopydoo

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 12:50 AM

I hate to not add anything to the thread, but california totally blows.

#13 Airsoft Monkey

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (doopydoo @ Oct 15 2006, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate to not add anything to the thread, but california totally blows.





Oh ya it does. I'am moving once I finish college. It's so close I can smell it.


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#14 gotphill

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 06:22 PM

Good post, I've been wondering about the airsoft laws we have.
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#15 SteyrKat

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 01:34 AM

This sure clarifies a lot, thanks.

#16 El Ornitorrinco

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (doopydoo @ Oct 15 2006, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate to not add anything to the thread, but california totally blows.



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"The problem with Morgan Hill: it's in California. The problem with California: the people who make the laws are all hippies."

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My cousin lives on 40 acres of land in Oregon. He shoots on his own land. How cool is that? I came over, he had his AR-15 on his dining room table. He picked it up, took four steps out his back door and fired, nailing a barrel a good quarter mile away.

He's basically living my dream life. Except he doesn't fly airplanes. Or airsoft. (He does paintball, though.) So take my cousin, make it me instead of him, put in a biplane or two and replace the paintball guns with airsoft guns...

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#17 DeathMetal AS

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (joker8baller @ Oct 4 2006, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh? I was talking about how you can play with non-orange tipped weapons at a legitimate field.


I found this intresting -

"Merely having an orange tip as provided in
federal law and regulations does not satisfy this requirement."
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#18 waller

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 12:24 AM

Lol I live in a small town (everyone sees everything) me and my first airsoft friends that started our airsoft boom would play at this house that had a big front yard that was in clear view of our towns main road. and when I mean main road im talking about 1500 people all in the hills and this one road going through town...anyways point of my story at night the police would come almost every time some of them draw there guns others are cool with it but we never ever got into trouble. the only thing those stupid liberal bastereds can do is fine us for litering assuming they saw us shoot onto the road.

#19 Grave Digger

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:54 AM

So we know Ca blows and we have to have our orange tips while we play on fields in the public but what about other state do they have the same rules?? Or are they a little better and not so A_NAL???















QUOTE (waller @ Nov 13 2006, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol I live in a small town (everyone sees everything) me and my first airsoft friends that started our airsoft boom would play at this house that had a big front yard that was in clear view of our towns main road. and when I mean main road im talking about 1500 people all in the hills and this one road going through town...anyways point of my story at night the police would come almost every time some of them draw there guns others are cool with it but we never ever got into trouble. the only thing those stupid liberal bastereds can do is fine us for litering assuming they saw us shoot onto the road.


#20 joker8baller

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 01:58 AM

QUOTE (Grave Digger @ Nov 15 2006, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So we know Ca blows and we have to have our orange tips while we play on fields in the public but what about other state do they have the same rules?? Or are they a little better and not so A_NAL???


Private fields do not require Orange tips. Many professionally run skirmishes do not require an orange tip...
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#21 thewuzzupkid

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 01:15 AM

Ok I wanna see if what I do is legal lol. Me and my friends were all 18. We go to this public field (its like a deep hole in the middle of a bunch of houses) with airsoft guns that are clear or have orange tips in the dead of night. We wear safty stuff. If the cop ever came up to us can they do anything?

Edited by thewuzzupkid, 21 November 2006 - 01:35 AM.


#22 TEN36VX

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 05:04 AM

If you play in CA they can cite you for 12556, $100 the first time. Time of day would play a role. You would probably just be told to knock it off.
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#23 bfern789

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:30 PM

bottom of the line is take the orange tip off at your own risk. I myself have done it but I suggest that u know the laws and if you are ever questioned about it know what you are going to say. the CA law contradicts itself about requiring an orange tip:

"12553. (a) (1) Any person who changes, alters, removes, or
obliterates any coloration or markings that are required for by any
applicable state or federal law or regulation, for any imitation
firearm, or device described in subdivision © of Section 12555, in
any way that makes the imitation firearm or device look more like a
firearm is guilty of a misdemeanor."


This section pretty much says that if your gun came with an orange tip, then not to mess with it or you are going to jail. if confronted by a police officer one could make the argument that they purchased the airsoft gun off craigslist or something and an orange tip was not included. 12555 ©.



"12555 © As used in this section, "imitation firearm" does not include
any of the following:
(1) A nonfiring collector's replica that is historically
significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall
plaque or presentation case.
(2) A BB device, as defined in subdivision (g) of Section 12001."

"12001 (g) For purposes of Sections 12551 and 12552, the term “BB device” means any instrument that expels a projectile, such as a BB or a pellet, not exceeding 6mm caliber, through the force of air pressure, gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun."

In these two sections it goes into detail about what is and is not an imitation firearm. the argument could be made that an airsoft gun is a "bb device" and as such does not need to be sold with an orange tip as it does shoot bb's, the bb's are less then a 6mm caliber, and in the case of gas and spring guns they are shot through the force of air pressure, gas pressure or spring action.

this argument can not be made for automatic electric rifles or electric pistols


if you are going to take the orange tip off it might not be a bad idea to reference these when being questioned by the police.

#24 ThirdEye

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:48 PM

Question: Recently I went to the park to shoot my airsoft gun. Note my airsoft gun is TRANSLUCENT and has a bright orange tip and a bright lime green handle. Now a group of guys were threatening to call the cops on me even though I was in an area that was explicitly public. Nevertheless I left not wanting to get in any trouble from the police and not fully aware of what the airsoft laws here in CA and I'm not a confrontational person. My question is, was I breaking any laws or were they just giving me a hard time?

Need to know should I ever want to shoot my airsoft gun anywhere other than inside my house. -___-

Edited by ThirdEye, 27 June 2010 - 04:15 PM.

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#25 Romeo_Delta

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:57 PM

You shouldn't use your Airsoft guns in public regardless of how unreal they look.

#26 ThirdEye

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:09 PM

That's a shame, I'll have to research if there's anywhere local to do Airsoft. Thanks.

Edited by ThirdEye, 27 June 2010 - 04:16 PM.

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#27 hydralover

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:11 PM

If you use common sense, you won't run into any trouble. Plain and simple.
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#28 DM Hackle

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:39 PM

Glad I can be the first to point out that this thread is from 2006......
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#29 hydralover

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:15 PM

^ The thread may be old, but safety is eternal.
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