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#1 dakine

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:00 PM

Now hear me out on this one for just a sec...

I am trying to see what is wrong with necroposting cause if the topic is not a closed topic and it still has some room for discussion then why cause problems saying "Stop necroposting" ? As far as I consider it, it might help people posting multipe topics about some thing that was discussed months ago. People post a topic that was discussed months ago and it goes way down in the list and someone else posts the same thing later. If people are okay with necroposts then it might get people to search for that topic and rather than open a new one about it asking a question that was not answered in there they can just post in the same topic that was months old. As it is now they open a whole new topic about it cause they are afraid of someone saying "STOP NECROPOSTING".

I don't know maybe I am wrong but if a topic is still open and there are unanswered questions why not allow it? Set me right if I am wrong here but its just food for thought.

I have seen so many topics reserface and people giving more useful info in them then someone comes along and says stop necroposting.

Thanks for hearing me out!
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#2 tantrik

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE (dakine @ Feb 10 2008, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now hear me out on this one for just a sec...

I am trying to see what is wrong with necroposting cause if the topic is not a closed topic and it still has some room for discussion then why cause problems saying "Stop necroposting" ? As far as I consider it, it might help people posting multipe topics about some thing that was discussed months ago. People post a topic that was discussed months ago and it goes way down in the list and someone else posts the same thing later. If people are okay with necroposts then it might get people to search for that topic and rather than open a new one about it asking a question that was not answered in there they can just post in the same topic that was months old. As it is now they open a whole new topic about it cause they are afraid of someone saying "STOP NECROPOSTING".

I don't know maybe I am wrong but if a topic is still open and there are unanswered questions why not allow it? Set me right if I am wrong here but its just food for thought.

I have seen so many topics reserface and people giving more useful info in them then someone comes along and says stop necroposting.

Thanks for hearing me out!


Hello dakine,

I agree with your points. And, actually, ASF does allow an older thread to "resurface" as long as the information added is useful and requires that the old thread be "resurrected".

But there are other points that may be also disadvantageous. One example would be old reviews and outdated information. For example some one would say that this product is good for this, and is the only product for this and that. If this was posted a year ago, then this may not be true anymore. Resurrecting that thread will confuse forumers, and that outdated information may mislead them.

So we have to consider the pros and cons before resurrecting a thread. If it does more good than bad, and you have important information to add, and it is really needed, by all means resurrect it. But if it doesn't, it might be best to leave it buried and create a new thread.

It all comes down to responsible foruming.

I hope my explanation has shed some light.

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Edited by tantrik, 10 February 2008 - 11:26 PM.

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#3 dakine

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:17 AM

Thank you vary much tantrik, I appreciate your info and the pros and cons.

I just see so many people right away saying its necroposting and right away say stop it.

I most appreciate your time to answer my questions!
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#4 NGOB

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:55 AM

We do filter the necros. If they're completely pointless posts (and most of the time, they are), then we simply delete them or lock the thread. My preferred policy is that we delete the necro so the thread is available for searching without the rather annoying "OMG, NECROPOST" statements plastered on them.
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#5 longbow419

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (New Guy on the Block @ Feb 11 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
without the rather annoying "OMG, NECROPOST" statements plastered on them.


I've noticed that a certain few members post only those words quite often, and contribute nothing to the topic.
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#6 Leotheo

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 09:41 PM

I hope I contriubute
Whenever I see a pointless necropost, I usually respond with the following:
Necroposting is not allowed on ASF, if your question cannot be answered with a search, please create a new thread
Thank you
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Edited by Leotheo, 12 February 2008 - 09:41 PM.

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#7 longbow419

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (Leotheo @ Feb 12 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope I contriubute
Whenever I see a pointless necropost, I usually respond with the following:
Necroposting is not allowed on ASF, if your question cannot be answered with a search, please create a new thread
Thank you
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If you post that, that's not a problem at all. That is thoughtful and helpful. I was referring to the typical "necropost" or any other form of sarcastic insult that some members reply with when a new member makes a mistake.
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#8 NGOB

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:27 PM

Yes, that's a much more professional way to handle it. Sometimes newbies truthfully do not know, and when someone comes up and says "WOW, NECROPOST" and leaves, it contributes nothing.

The preferable thing to do would be to either report the post, or leave behind a statement like the one above with an explanation.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:29 PM

Thanks guys! I try my best! I would edit my post, but I can't a-surrender.gif
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE (New Guy on the Block @ Feb 13 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The preferable thing to do would be to either report the post, or leave behind a statement like the one above with an explanation.


That's what I do, and that's also what I try to get other members to do.

Edited by longbow419, 14 February 2008 - 07:34 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 07:41 PM

One large problem relating to necroposting can be directly attributed to overzealous members. There are some people that hit the report button for every little thing (You want an example? I once got a report about bad language in a thread... that was almost 2 years old.) They will report a necro post, and a mod will have to take a look at it. In most cases, the mod will close it if nothing further needs to be added, or left open if further discussion is a good idea. However, sometimes a mod is tired, or busy, and will just take the member's word for it, and just close it. I typically try not to do that, and will just leave it alone unless I have the time to mess with it.
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#12 Laments Song

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 06:51 PM

Just out of curiosity, can you define exactly how long a thread should go before a post in it would be a necropost? I ask this because I was recently told that I had done a "bit of a necropost" when I mentioned something in a thread that no one had responded to in a little over three weeks. It's not like this forum has so much traffic and so many topics that I had to go and find this particular thread to leave the comment in, it was in the first page, and within the top four threads in that particular forum. There is another forum that I am a member of that has people constantly resurrecting threads that are four or more months old, and the person literally has to go back 20 or more pages just to find the thread and post something in it. But they do. Obviously, a person that has way too much time on their hands, and way too bored.

I am not out looking for those threads that are interesting to me, and then posting in them, even though no one has probably looked at them for four months or more. I actually look at the dates of recent posts, and if it is within a month, then I would feel inclined to comment, if my comment is not something that was mentioned already.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 12:42 AM

I agree with just about everything in this thread. If a thread is not closed and there is room for further discussion then yes - you can "necropost" in it. If its a totally useless comment that is posted 4 or 5 months down the road, then that's probably a post that should get deleted and the thread closed... Howevever if its useful - then leave it there and stop rank posting comments like, "stop necroposting" - yes that is annoying and I wish more of our members would see and read this thread because they obviously missed our rules on this

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 07:50 PM

Well this is ironic...

Why not just close all sale threads that have been inactive for... let's say a month? This would prevent newbies from asking if an item is still for sale from a 8 month old thread. If the seller wanted it reopened, he could just PM a mod.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 07:57 PM

I think that on subforums that generally have few posts (aep, shotgun forums) bringing something from the second page back us should be allowed, as long as it is still relevant. Example: on the shotgun forum, the "show off your shotgun thread" is on the second page because it is not pinned for some reason. Since this is more of a picture compilation thread, necroposting should not apply.
EDIT: realized that shotguns have not really changed in the past few years, making necroposting almost irrelevant.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 09:39 PM

Large picture threads are exempt. A necro is not simply a post after 30 days of inactivity, if the post contains valuable, unsaid information then it is necro exempt.

Also, as Admin said making a post that simply says "stop necro posting" is considered rank posting and I have been and will continue to punish those who do so. ESPECIALLY if you do so and do not report the thread.
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