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I noticed my 3x magnifier that I put on my M4 doesn't fit on my Tanaka's rails, so what will fit on the rails?

I was planning on buying this scope:

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.ph...oducts_id=26684

it comes with scope rings

 

how do I know if a scope's rings will fit on my rails?

 

does anyone have a Tanaka M700/M40A1/M24? if so, what scope do you have on it?

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I have a 4-12x50 CI Walther Illuminated with 30mm medium rings on my M700 AICS. You have to be sure that the rings must fit 22mm rail.

Tanakas apparently have 22mm rails. Some scope rings are designed to cope with this.

http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/M700-Mou...p;mode=threaded

http://www.abcoptics.com/search.php?search_query=22mm

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Tanakas apparently have 22mm rails. Some scope rings are designed to cope with this.

http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/M700-Mou...p;mode=threaded

http://www.abcoptics.com/search.php?search_query=22mm

Just use Leapers brand scope rings they will work fine. KJW's are where you start to have trouble because 1. they are made to :censored2: tolerances, and 2. they are painted, not anodized or blued.

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yaya: link is broken. Also: I know nothing about that website, never seen it before, and can't vouch for its trustworthiness. Linked purely for illustration.

 

The most reliable place with the biggest selection is opticsplanet.com

 

When looking at scope rings, the number you're most likely to see is 25mm, 1" or 30mm. This is the size of the scope tube, which you need to match to your rings (unless you're using spacers).

 

Normally, it will just say for weaver/picatinny rails, or for dovetails (that you find on airguns). So you want weaver/picatinny.

 

From that other post, apparently Leapers work fine on 22mm weavers (normal width is anywhere from 20mm to 22mm).* Leapers rings can be had for ~$10 pair. They come in various designs, various heights (to provide clearance for the front of the scope), and various tube sizes.

 

*Picatinny rails are specced at 0.835 inches = 21.2mm. Weavers are supposed to be the same width as picatinny, but there is inevitable variation.

Edited by verisimilitude

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this is getting very frusterating, no website has the necisary specifications

this ring looks like it will work:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-accush...-rgwm-25l2.html

but a few problems, it doesn't tell the rail specs, will it fit 22mm?? I don't know! and to make it better, it doesn't even say if it comes with one or two rings

and one guy above said that all leapers work...well I was looking at these rings:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-deluxe...-rg20d-25c.html

but it says the rail specs, which is 20mm

..soooooooooo

 

any help?

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Weaver rails are 22mm standard. If you have rings that say they can fit on a Weaver rail then they'll fit on the Tanaka or KJW. Even with paint or a 1/2mm irregularity most rings will go on fine.

 

Picked up a few from Walmart. I'm currently switching out a low profile for medium profile. They're airsoft rifles. Expensive scopes and rings have no place on things that have a hard time reaching 100yrds.

 

edit: I think you guys are getting the objective lens confused with the base. 20mm objective lenses are common. 20mm bases are not. There are only Dovetail (11mm) and Weaver/Picatinny (22mm). Although sometimes an add will say "20mm Weaver rings", it's meaning 20mm objective lens for a weaver base. Either that or it's Engrish or a company weenie who doesn't know jack about the product.

Edited by Brainplay

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alright, I get what you are saying, but at the last event I went to, a guy named Tom had an extra scope and rings

the rings were for weaver rails, and it had lots of threading, more than enough, but it was too short in the way of HIGHT, it's hard to explain, but the very bottom of the scope rings, the bottom of the piece that attatches to the rail, well they didn't reach far enough into the rail to grip tightly, in fact it wouldn't even fit on BARELY

 

do you think that was just a crappy set of rings?

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alright, I get what you are saying, but at the last event I went to, a guy named Tom had an extra scope and rings

the rings were for weaver rails, and it had lots of threading, more than enough, but it was too short in the way of HIGHT, it's hard to explain, but the very bottom of the scope rings, the bottom of the piece that attatches to the rail, well they didn't reach far enough into the rail to grip tightly, in fact it wouldn't even fit on BARELY

 

do you think that was just a crappy set of rings?

 

 

Not really. Sounds more like they were Picatinny rings instead of Weaver. Rule of thumb is that all Weaver rings will fit a Picatinny rail but not all Picatinny rings (or accessories) will fit a Weaver. The difference is that the Weaver rails are not consistent in the depth and placement of their grooves. Picatinny however is milspec and requires exacting measurement in this. Some rings and accessories will take full advantage of this and use thick screws to take up any slack in the grooves. This will cause a tight fit on a Weaver slot or just allow no attachment at all.

 

Don't worry, you're not the first to run into this problem. This happens to a lot of real steel shooters on a regular basis.

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yeah it's pretty crazy that scope rings are soo complicated and confusing, haha

 

well then I think I'm good, I'll probly go with:

this scope:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bsa-optics-3-9...ifle-scope.html

with these rings:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/ncstar-scope-r...-ring-rb23.html

or

this scope:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/ncstar-regular...g-sfb3940r.html

with these rings:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/ncstar-scope-r...black-rb11.html

 

the problem is the second set is so much cheaper, but it looks like the lens is more of a give-away, and it's so big at one end, it needs higher rails

the first scope can be lower to the gun

 

....decisions decisions

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yeah..it is a lot cheaper

but the mounts are for picatinny, so I'd need to buy some anyway

 

..and the other scope has a wider view too, it's 50 enstead of the NcSTAR's 40

 

The size of your objective lens is a double edged sword of sorts. Bigger means more light transmission for a better view(typically) as well as a wider field of view, however more light transmission also means more chances for a glare and your scope reflecting light and someone spotting you..... I like the leapers stuff and they are only about $50 for a decent piece of airsoft glass. I've had their scopes take a crap and they replaced it immediately.

 

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yeah I decided to go with the NcSTAR 3-9x40

it's cheaper and I don't want too big of a lens

 

I am excited, lol

 

 

you don't need bigger in airsoft, why carry around the weight of a bigger scope. you don't need bigger magnification than this

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well yes, I'll be using from 3-6 most of the time, but it's not the magnification I was debating, it was NcSTAR's 40 to BSA's 50 feild of view or whatever you call it, it means the lens is bigger, which I realized I don't need

 

but it's really not overkill, my friend plays with a 3-9x50 and he does great, he uses up to 8x magnification also

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The size of the tube is just as important (if not more so) as the size of the front lens for how much light comes through. You'll find a lot of quality scopes have 30mm tubes, instead of 1" ones. You never find really inexpensive scopes with 30mm tubes.

 

That being said, if you want a really nice 3-9x scope, these particular models of Leapers (with a 1" tube) are especially good. 40 and 50 models. I know they're more expensive than you're looking for, but still...

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-5th-ge...eel-red-gr.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-5th-ge...d-green-il.html

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well I already ordered, but I'm confident it will be sufficiant, I got the NcSTAR 3-9x40 with a 1" tube, and it was a good deal

 

I see the specifications on those scopes, why are they so much more expensive?

They are much better, for just a little bit more. Leapers scopes are machined from a solid block of aluminum, as opposed to being extruded out of aluminum or pot metal. I know your next question is what the difference is, google.

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