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NinjaTurtle

TTW: JAC XM-177 DX

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RULES:

1. Prices do not include shipping unless otherwise stated

2. IF shipping IS stated, it is assumed for CONUS ONLY

3. I ship via USPS w/ tracking and delivery confirmation

4. I accept PayPal and FTF (on occasion) ONLY

5. NO thread crapping/ low-balling/ etc.

6. Everything sold on an AS-IS basis.

 

 

 

Hey guys, this is my JAC XM-177 DX classic rifle. For those of you who are not familiar with classics, let me give you a small history lesson:

 

Classic rifle function by using gas to fuel the system. In this case, the gun utilizes a BV, or Bullet-Valve, engine. A BV engine has one moving part. Basically a small metal piece pushes the bb against an o-ring that is just barely too small for the bb to fall through. As this is happening, these parts push the barrel forward, against the weight of a spring. The air creates enough pressure behind the bb to force the bb through the o-ring and through the barrel, firing a round. With one moving part, there is really nothing to break. That's why this gun was made 20+ years ago and yet is still more reliable than a KWA AEG made much more recently.

 

This particular classic can run off an internal tank or off an external air rig, which is what is recommended. Any gas can be used, but CO2 or HPA is what should be used. I prefer CO2.

 

This gun has an LRB, which acts as a hop up and gives the bb backspin. Two types of LRBs were made- an offset breach LRB which basically took the form of a banana and the bb would ride along the top of it creating backspin, or an LRB with a groove cut along the top of the barrel. The latter is what this gun has. Basically, air rushes through the groove faster than any other part of the barrel, creating a backspin on the bb. This is very effective as it is consistent as long as the air flow is consistent (which it is if you use an external rig). It also allows you to use any bb weight you want as there is no protrusion that the bb hits as it exits the barrel such as in modern hop up systems. The gun is particularly fond of Bioval .27 bbs.

 

A recoil weight is also installed to ensure that the barrel does not rotate and to add a fair amount of recoil to the gun.

 

I have six working, metal bodied magazines for the gun, two rare extended magazines that work but need new springs, and a lot of extra parts. The magazines generally go for about $60 each for the standard ones, and $75 for the extended ones.

 

The metal receiver on this gun is worth around $250+ just by itself. It is extremely high quality. It far surpasses most MBKs made today, even those made by G&P, etc.

 

The rifle feels very real in your hands. Much better than any AEG I've every held. It is made to real-steel dimensions and can fit RS grips and stocks.

 

All these prices are estimates, as retailers don't sell them anymore. I am just stating what they could sell for on the used market. The rarity of these items gives them value as well.

 

I am only considering selling this because I have an Asahi SCAR-L in the works (yeah, you heard me right).

 

Enough of me ranting, here are a few quick pictures:

 

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ASKING: $650

 

More looking for trades plus cash.

 

Trade List:

-TM/KWA P226

-Very Very nice AEGs- Armalites, M14s, or Scars

-Systema PTW

 

Do NOT offer me clones. Do NOT offer me a gun without adding cash, unless you can somehow justify how yours is worth more than mine. The mere rarity on these guns gives them a much greater resale value than pretty much any AEG out there.

 

PM me with questions/interests.

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Normally I PM this sort of info, but I feel it should be public, being a classic user myself. :)

 

What brand is the LRB? Is it an original or a custom built one by an airsmith?

 

Prices/estimates are a little off as well. The market for classic items as well as their value has bottomed out. I bought my JAC Limited M733 for $300 (completely stock and in mint condition)

For those who are unfamiliar, JAC made 4 different levels, the worst being an Export Model (EX), next being Standard, then Deluxe (DX), and the Limited was at the top. The Export was complete crap and the Standard wasnt far behind. The limited and DX models both had upgraded internals and full metal bodies, the limited having a unique serial number and a few other internal upgrades over the DX.

 

Maybe I missed it, but are the mags the metal tubing version or plastic?

Mags that have metal tubing run about $40ish give or take $5.

 

You will have much better luck selling it on www.classicairsoft.net

 

Anyway, good luck with your sale and IMHO, there isnt any better classic Armalite out there. For those that are considering this, it doesnt get much better. I loved my JAC limited and kick myself for trading it away. If I wasnt picking up an Escort MP5 I'd have some intrest in this.

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Normally I PM this sort of info, but I feel it should be public, being a classic user myself. :)

 

What brand is the LRB? Is it an original or a custom built one by an airsmith?

 

Prices/estimates are a little off as well. The market for classic items as well as their value has bottomed out. I bought my JAC Limited M733 for $300 (completely stock and in mint condition)

For those who are unfamiliar, JAC made 4 different levels, the worst being an Export Model (EX), next being Standard, then Deluxe (DX), and the Limited was at the top. The Export was complete crap and the Standard wasnt far behind. The limited and DX models both had upgraded internals and full metal bodies, the limited having a unique serial number and a few other internal upgrades over the DX.

 

Maybe I missed it, but are the mags the metal tubing version or plastic?

Mags that have metal tubing run about $40ish give or take $5.

 

You will have much better luck selling it on www.classicairsoft.net

 

Anyway, good luck with your sale and IMHO, there isnt any better classic Armalite out there. For those that are considering this, it doesnt get much better. I loved my JAC limited and kick myself for trading it away. If I wasnt picking up an Escort MP5 I'd have some intrest in this.

 

All valid questions. However, please refrain from quoting other sales as that IS thread crapping. Maybe the person was under different circumstances and had to sell it for cheaper? While I am willing to wait to get the most out of the gun.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure about the manufacturer of the LRB as I too got the gun used. However, I wasn't aware of any machinists out there who made the LRB with the groove on the top; I have only heard of/know machinists who make the other type of LRB.

 

I am changing up the package/pricing. I am including an entire JAC M16VN (standard) as a parts gun. It has a cracked lower receiver and no inner barrel, but has the entire BV unit, trigger assembly, and stock with the air chamber in it so it may come in handy.

 

As for the magazines, I will now be including a TOTAL of 9 magazines. 7 of them are metal- bodied. Of that seven, three have plastic internals and four have metal internals. The other 2 magazines will be the extended magazines that need the springs to be stretched/replaced.

 

As for classicairsoft- I know. I just want to trade it for a modern GBB pistol plus cash, or even an AEG plus cash. So that's why I am here.

 

Anyways, bump!

 

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