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New to the airsoft world - looking for suggestions for guns

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I kind of backed into discovering airsoft guns just about a month ago. I was online looking for toy guns and came across a lot of airsoft sites. Since I was looking for toy guns (for my son), not really for airsoft guns, I just bought a bunch of cool-looking, cheap spring guns. While they were on the way, I started reading a little bit about was airsoft was about. By the time they arrived, my son and I were ready to shoot each other with plastic bbs.

 

He and I have played with toy guns for years (admittedly, I am just a big kid), but now I think we are ready to move up a little. Of course, most of the guns that we bought, none more expensive than $20, were pretty poor quality, but we got a few that we could shoot each other reliably at about 50 to 75 ft. (and we do have goggles and masks and we wear them when we play). Now that we've been bitten, we want to move up.

 

I found and ordered a couple of LPEGs that are supposed to arrive today. I'm still trying to keep my investment low to make sure that we like playing, but I also don't want to discourage my son by only having poor quality guns. So basically, my question for you folks is what might be the next step up.

 

We will primarily be playing in wooded terrain. We live on a 140 acre farm - it has about 50 acres of wood and the rest is open hayfields. We also have areas with lots of buildings (barns and such) to play around. As far as I can tell right now, we won't be looking to play in a competitive nature, but mostly just when his friends come over. I would like to be able to pick up 5 or 6 decent guns eventually so that several kids can play at once. My son and his friends are in the 12-14 year old age range.

 

Most of the shooting distances will be at 100' or less in the woods. Around the buildings where we play, it might be longer than that, but I really don't know what an expected range for an airsoft gun is, either. Right now (in winter) there are some longer shots because of less vegetation, but thats only a few months out of the year.

 

We don't have any airsoft stores anywhere near us, so we are pretty much limited to department store stuff and online. I've read that there are several online places that are a bit shady, so I welcome any recommendations of where to purchase as well.

 

Here's a couple of specific guns that I have questions about: My son really likes the looks of either the M4 or a SCAR. The LPEG that we have ordered is an M4, but I'm hoping to pick up a better AEG SCAR in the next couple of months. Given my circumstances as listed above, is it reasonable to think I could get one for $200 or less? I think I've seen a D-boys for that price or less, but honestly so many of them run together I can't quite keep them straight. Any recommendations for this?

 

Secondly, I'm a fan of the M36 and the M14. One of the cheap springers we got was a Double Eagle M36 (or it may say M41 or M85 on the side, I can't remember) and I'm really impressed with it, for a spring gun. It was easily the best of the bunch that we got. I've been looking at a JG M36C, and they look available in the $120 to $150 range. Is this a good "next step up" from where I'm at now? Any other comparable items.

 

Finally, we were at Dicks Sporting Goods over the weekend and looked at their selection. Several pretty cool looking guns, but seemed expensive and I couldn't figure out who the manufacturer really was. They had a Firepower M14 for $100. After we got home, I searched for some information about it, including here, and it looks like it is either maybe a Cybergun or a Cyma, but I can't tell for sure. I have found versions of it for sale for about $50 that claim it shoots in excess of 300 fps, but I can tell you I don't know what to believe.

 

All of this said, I'm willing to spend some bucks, but overall I would rather have 5 or 6 servicable, lower grade guns than 1 or 2 high quality guns, because as I mentioned before, I would like to be able to equip his friends with guns (and eye/face protection) when we play. The guns will probably see relatively low usage, but again, I don't want to just buy junk.

 

Sorry for the long post, and I apologize if I've missed some things when I was searching. I'm trying to learn as fast as I can, but could definately use some guidance.

 

Thanks for the help.

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Find a reputable refurbisher and go used.

 

It's like buying your first car. You get one that works well and learn to drive. Then you buy your first new one that fits your driving style.

 

Hadn't thought about that route. Are there any you are familiar with that you would recommend? I did a quick google search for refurished airsoft and it brought up several sites that I have read about as being not so great.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

 

 

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Hadn't thought about that route. Are there any you are familiar with that you would recommend? I did a quick google search for refurished airsoft and it brought up several sites that I have read about as being not so great.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

 

Ill PM you a recommendation.

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Just as an update, my boy and I recieved our LPEGs a few days ago, and so far, we're having a blast. We've gone out into the woods every afternoon this week and had some shoot outs. One day it was pretty windy and that affected the accuracy and distance of the guns, but we still had a good time with it.

 

The units that we got are some Double Eagles (and M4 and an M36) that were pretty cheap. It looks like our next step up will be something along the lines of the JG, Echo1 or Dboys maybe. Any opinion on a Cyma? We were looking at a tommy gun that was made by cyma, and the reviews were pretty good, but I couldn't find too many either.

 

Thanks for the help. I'm enjoying this whole airsoft thing a lot so far.

 

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When you say m36 do you mean the sub machine gun or the g36, I'm getting a little confused here.

 

G36c

 

If you do mean the JG G36 then its a decent gun, its not very expensive but it actually is pretty reliable. They call it the Mk36/M36/C36 to avoid lawsuits with H&K.

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When you say m36 do you mean the sub machine gun or the g36, I'm getting a little confused here.

 

G36c

 

If you do mean the JG G36 then its a decent gun, its not very expensive but it actually is pretty reliable. They call it the Mk36/M36/C36 to avoid lawsuits with H&K.

 

I meant the G36c, just got ahead of myself typing. I really like that style of gun - I'm assuming that the JG version is going to be about the same size all around, just a better made package.

 

What about the H&K labelled guns? I assuming that H&K doesn't make them, but are they any good?

 

Thanks.

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This is pretty much the same situation I am in, we have bought the cheapo junk guns, and looking to upgrade for the kids to play around the farm. Of course I'll have something better, but that's another topic. Going to actual retail store for airsoft in columbus, see how that turns out, and I am also interested in the refurbished route. Could someone post a couple of suggestions for refurb'ed guns?

 

Is their a typical decent rent gun? I know in airsoft the tipmann 98 was common as a rental, and could take some abuse, looking for something similar for airsoft.

 

Thanks,

Dennis

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This is pretty much the same situation I am in, we have bought the cheapo junk guns, and looking to upgrade for the kids to play around the farm. Of course I'll have something better, but that's another topic. Going to actual retail store for airsoft in columbus, see how that turns out, and I am also interested in the refurbished route. Could someone post a couple of suggestions for refurb'ed guns?

 

Is their a typical decent rent gun? I know in airsoft the tipmann 98 was common as a rental, and could take some abuse, looking for something similar for airsoft.

 

Thanks,

Dennis

 

Aren't tipman 98s paintball guns? when I played paintball a lot of fields used those as rentals.

 

Usually local airsoft stores don't have as wide of a selection as online retailers and local shops need to boost the price up by 20-40 dollars to make a profit. What airsoft stores rent out varies from place to place. My local field rents out JG g36s but sometimes fields use Combat Machine M4s or Cyma AK47s. For good cheap guns I would definitely consider a JG g36c or a G&G Combat Machine m4. They both hold up well on the field and are Wayyy better than wall mart guns.

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This is pretty much the same situation I am in, we have bought the cheapo junk guns, and looking to upgrade for the kids to play around the farm. Of course I'll have something better, but that's another topic. Going to actual retail store for airsoft in columbus, see how that turns out, and I am also interested in the refurbished route. Could someone post a couple of suggestions for refurb'ed guns?

 

Is their a typical decent rent gun? I know in airsoft the tipmann 98 was common as a rental, and could take some abuse, looking for something similar for airsoft.

 

Thanks,

Dennis

 

A good refurbisher has been sent to you in a PM.

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Aren't tipman 98s paintball guns? when I played paintball a lot of fields used those as rentals.

 

Whoops, I was thinking paintball, but forgot to say it. Just using that as a comparable, since that is what I was used to.

 

The guns you mention as field guns actually are the ones at the top of my meager list.

 

Didn't get a PM on the refurbished guns, checked to make sure I was set to receive PMs.

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Just a quick note, picked up a tan G&G CM16 today at the retail store in Columbus, for 150, with smart charger, battery, and BB's. They test fired it, was 380fps. This is the high muzzle velocity version, standard ones are around 330-340fps. They didn't have the higher powered one's in black.

 

I'll play with it a while, then probably do a couple of upgrades.

 

Thanks for the help guys!

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Though I have yet to purchase any airsoft stuff, this thread delivers, and answers many of the questions I had brewing in my mind. Thanks to all of those who posted informative replies! I know the feeling of wanting to try the sport with reliable equipment (less frustration = more of the fun factor) yet not spending too much in case it does not work out.

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When you guys mention a Cyma AK - how many versions of those are there? I only ask because when I do a quick search on eBay, I come up with results that go from $50 to $300, and everything in between. How can I tell what is what in regards to which one is good and which one is bad?

 

Anyway, still having a lot of fun with our cheap guns - it's been cold and rainy so we haven't had much time to play, but as it warms up, we hope to get to play some more.

 

Thanks again.

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When you guys mention a Cyma AK - how many versions of those are there? I only ask because when I do a quick search on eBay, I come up with results that go from $50 to $300, and everything in between. How can I tell what is what in regards to which one is good and which one is bad?

 

Anyway, still having a lot of fun with our cheap guns - it's been cold and rainy so we haven't had much time to play, but as it warms up, we hope to get to play some more.

 

Thanks again.

 

There are like a million CYMA AKs :a-laugh: If you go online to Airsoft Megastore and organize AKs from price high to low, they will be after some DE AKs and that will show you how many lower priced ones they have. There are also some higher priced CYMA AKs but they are just blowback etc.

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