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New gun to get back into airsoft. $250

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So I used to play a LONG time ago, back when classic army produced junk and my gun broke every 50 shots, maybe 12 years ago.

 

Now I'm looking to get back into the sport. Did some quick research and I was wondering what guns you would recommend and if any of these are even worthy of a starter gun or if there are better options out there.

 

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/4206-class...-ca-ar016m.aspx

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/5348-king-...ka-ag-52bk.aspx

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/6405-class...ar003m-xsv.aspx

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/4068-g-and...fm4ris-tan.aspx

 

I am willing to spend $250 gonna be going lipo. If I don't have to spend that much I'd like to save money. Or if it's better to buy a cheap gun and then just put after market items in to get the best performance.

 

Mainly one of the reasons I got out of airsoft is cause the guns just never worked, so I want to avoid anything like that and head to the field with something that I can lay down some plastic with and play all day. I like shooting heavier bb's.

 

I have two venues in my area in Washington. I know they are very different from each other but possibly a way to change springs quickly will remedy that issue.

1) CQC - 350 max

2) Outdoor - .25 bb's at 450fps (but am looking for a more reasonable fps)

 

I am not privy to any specific type of model I do not like mp5's a whole lot and would prefer and more versatile assault riffle.

 

Thanks for any help you guys have to offer.

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Hey, Hockey. I honestly suggest this gun to everybody who asks. It is a G&G Combat Machine Raider M4 Polymer Body.

 

I have one, and I will be making it into a MK18 soon, adding a DD Lite 9 inch rail.

 

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7285 - $150, it can take a 10.1 lipo, and you can easily upgrade internals and externals. If you do want to change the RIS on it, you will need to buy a new outer barrel, though.

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Hey, Hockey. I honestly suggest this gun to everybody who asks. It is a G&G Combat Machine Raider M4 Polymer Body.

 

I have one, and I will be making it into a MK18 soon, adding a DD Lite 9 inch rail.

 

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7285 - $150, it can take a 10.1 lipo, and you can easily upgrade internals and externals. If you do want to change the RIS on it, you will need to buy a new outer barrel, though.

 

What does that mean MK18? Also I have seen a lot of people pushing towards these guns. If I were willing to dump more money could I get something more reasonable or this is essentially all I would need and could upgrade later? Also how easy would It be to move into a faster higher fps? if I wanted to get into the 550 range how much would it cost to make this gun perform at that level? and if I do does it then have more chance to break?

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A MK18 is a variant of the M4. It has a 10.3 inch barrel, generally a Daniel Defense 9 inch RIS, crane stock and whatever accessories you want.

 

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That is what they generally look like. Also, what do you mean by 550? 550 feet per second?

 

Ya 550 feet per second what does that type of up grade run?

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Hey, Hockey. I honestly suggest this gun to everybody who asks. It is a G&G Combat Machine Raider M4 Polymer Body.

 

I have one, and I will be making it into a MK18 soon, adding a DD Lite 9 inch rail.

 

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7285 - $150, it can take a 10.1 lipo, and you can easily upgrade internals and externals. If you do want to change the RIS on it, you will need to buy a new outer barrel, though.

King arms have a couple of aegs around the 250 price bracket. They are reliable as king arms is a reputable brand. And you also get an aeg that has a metal body.

Not a lot of guns have a quick change spring feature, so I suggest you keep your gun at 350 fps, as using a gun with that velocity outdoors wont do you any harm

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King arms have a couple of aegs around the 250 price bracket. They are reliable as king arms is a reputable brand. And you also get an aeg that has a metal body.

Not a lot of guns have a quick change spring feature, so I suggest you keep your gun at 350 fps, as using a gun with that velocity outdoors wont do you any harm

 

 

So are the metal body's that much bigger of a upgrade then the polymer ones? Also im just looking for a gun that anyone in the sport would also look at and respect in some fashion. Not as in a ego thing but as to give more information as to the quality of the weapon I am looking for. Also please can you recommend a specific weapon? This will help me understand what to look for.

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Hey, Hockey. I honestly suggest this gun to everybody who asks. It is a G&G Combat Machine Raider M4 Polymer Body.

 

I have one, and I will be making it into a MK18 soon, adding a DD Lite 9 inch rail.

 

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7285 - $150, it can take a 10.1 lipo, and you can easily upgrade internals and externals. If you do want to change the RIS on it, you will need to buy a new outer barrel, though.

 

10.1 lipo??? Did you mean to say 11.1v lipo?

 

And honestly no it cannot handle an 11.1v lipo battery. If you don't first experience a stripped piston or stripped gears, your trigger contacts will quickly burn out. Pretty much no AEG is 11.1v-lipo ready out of the box. You need to do some internal tuning and install a MOSFET before prolonged usage of an 11.1v lipo battery in a new AEG.

 

What does that mean MK18? Also I have seen a lot of people pushing towards these guns. If I were willing to dump more money could I get something more reasonable or this is essentially all I would need and could upgrade later? Also how easy would It be to move into a faster higher fps? if I wanted to get into the 550 range how much would it cost to make this gun perform at that level? and if I do does it then have more chance to break?

 

Mk18 is just a specific variation of the M4. It is not one particular airsoft gun or something. So people building "Mk18s" are just setting up their M4s externally with the same look. It pretty much means a Daniel Defense 9" Lite rail system in dark earth color and an LMT/crane stock, other variations depending on what the user picks.

 

550 FPS is a huge number...that's not something AEGs are meant to normally use. That number is probably for the heavily upgraded semi-auto-only sniper rifles/DMRs. You need to read your field's rules about FPS "classes" and engagement distances to double-check. Even if you manage to upgrade your AEG to your field's high limit you may find you can only engage at like 150 feet or something like that.

 

For a regular stock AEG you don't probably want to go past about 400 FPS so you stay healthy between the amount of FPS and the stress on your internals. Additionally, it takes a lot of gearbox tuning, parts, and reinforcement to keep an AEG running well at such a high FPS. 550 with 0.36 is probably like 600+ with 0.20g BBs. Some V2 gearbox shells can crack at 330 FPS.

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I see, That is understandable and with such hi fps I don't want to cause stress. My main goal is just a gun that runs like a Honda. I have read a lot of your posts and is there anything that you would recommend? I am also willing to go used if that is a option.

 

Like a Honda eh? You can stay Japanese and go for a stock, unupgraded Tokyo Marui AEG. Those things last for years in the stock factory setup. While having a low FPS they have good hop-up action so your BBs still go far.

 

If that turns you of then you can look at various other brands out there, the market is very diverse today for AEGs.

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Like a Honda eh? You can stay Japanese and go for a stock, unupgraded Tokyo Marui AEG. Those things last for years in the stock factory setup. While having a low FPS they have good hop-up action so your BBs still go far.

 

If that turns you of then you can look at various other brands out there, the market is very diverse today for AEGs.

 

 

Lol well I wasn't saying specifically something Japanese haha. But would the TM's last well if given a slight spring upgrade? As well are they highly upgradeable?

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Lol well I wasn't saying specifically something Japanese haha. But would the TM's last well if given a slight spring upgrade? As well are they highly upgradeable?

 

In the stock setup you'd need to change a lot of parts to handle a heavier spring. The reason why they're at a low FPS and have some plastic internals is because of the FPS/joule limit in Japan. That limit hasn't changed in years, so neither have the internals of the TM AEGs.

 

They are highly upgradeable as their gearbox design is the de facto standard for many aftermarket parts. If you look at parts and magazines you'll see things like "Fit for TM V2 gearbox" or "Fit for TM M4" like that. And then most guns on the market are based on that design. Like, a JG M4 is a clone of the TM M4.

 

With today's market, you can go for other brands and have something pretty nice out of the box.

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Hmm sounds like then TM ain't for me. Between kwa g&g and classic army which is gonna give me the most reliable 350-400 outta the box? With best upgradability for later? Or is there a different brand I should know about?

 

 

Something like this a good first gun? Or is it to un versatile for cqc and such.

 

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPat...oducts_id=42412

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/5578-m14-e...cm032ebr-b.aspx

 

Are these good choices?

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Do you need a gun for both CQB and outdoor fields? Because both of those (M14s) are a little on the longer and heavier side. Most people prefer to use carbine-length guns so it's a good compromise of gun size overall.

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Well there are two venues here. The one that is cqc is more of place that can be gone to more frequently while the out door games are more spread apart in time but obviously on a larger scale. I have always liked the m14 style of gun but from what I understand the v2 gear boxes are a little bit mor easer friendly due to the popularity. Is it possible to modify a carbine into a DMR if wanted?

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Well there are two venues here. The one that is cqc is more of place that can be gone to more frequently while the out door games are more spread apart in time but obviously on a larger scale. I have always liked the m14 style of gun but from what I understand the v2 gear boxes are a little bit mor easer friendly due to the popularity. Is it possible to modify a carbine into a DMR if wanted?

 

In airsoft, "DMR" is just a term. If you have an MP5K tuned with some really good hop-up action you could consider it a DMR by airsoft standards. For the M4 platform, even if you start with a carbine length rifle, it's a modular system in which you can change the external to a more convention DMR look with things like a long front assembly, big stock, scope, etc...internal work is another thing of its own.

 

Yes, there are tons of V2 parts on the market due to the M4 popularity. For an M14 there's still a good amount of aftermarket parts available to do internal work with as well, and the V7 gearbox design is pretty sturdy.

 

Now, you don't have to feel like you can't use a long/heavy gun for CQB, I was just thinking that you could considering something in between big and small so it's comfortable for both CQB and outdoor fields. Of course you do need to consider the different FPS limits, yes. Another simple option is to have 2 guns, one for CQB and one for outdoor limits.

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Yes but also more money. :a-laugh:. It does seem hard to have a properly set-up outdoor and cqc weapon. I have been hearing lots of good things for this model.

 

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/4068-g-and...fm4ris-tan.aspx

 

 

It's metal a v2, adjustable stock for cqc. I would have to buy a different spring but those can't be much right? But for $231 is there a better option? Also I will be using lipos...

 

Here is a similar one, which is better?

 

This one seems extremely appealing and the one I am leaning towards...

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=10619

 

Remember I can put a lesser spring in it for lowering velocity...

 

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ER-GG-M4RDL-TN.htm

 

Also are these all the same gun?

 

Also this gun from king arms

 

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/1080-king-...0-ka-ag-20.aspx

 

Would this be over kill?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...oducts_id=11276

 

Ill just keep linking and you tell me which is the best out of the lot.

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