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zyquan

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First thing you may want to get down is your terminology.

 

I'm assuming you're using "OB" as "Open Bolt". The original use of this term is to describe the position of the bolt in the firing sequence of a firearm. In a closed bolt system, the bolt is in the forwards position when the gun fires. This means that a round is in the chamber, and pulling the trigger releases the hammer which hits the firing pin, sticking the primer of the bullet. The bolt then proceeds to recoil backwards, eject the spent casing, reset forwards and load a new bullet.

 

An open bolt system has the bolt in the rearwards position. The chamber is initially empty. Pulling the trigger allows the bolt to move forwards, chambering a round, and firing the bullet. The recoil of the bullet allows the bolt to reset itself, ready to shoot again.

 

 

Now, for airsoft, WE coined the term "Open Bolt" and "Closed Bolt" to refer to their line of Gas-Blowback rifles. The earlier attempts featured a brass tube in the middle of the chamber (they called it "realistic" because it was the same color as a bullet..).

Eventually, they redesigned their rifles to be more like Marui pistols. The chamber was free of the brass tube, and they called it "Open Bolt". The firing mechanism was technically a closed bolt system, but the chamber was literally open. Hence, WE OB system.

 

 

The KWA you're looking at is not an OB system.

 

Sorry for the rant. But on to your original question.

 

 

KWA MP7. Cheaper. Easy (enough) to find. Licensed, but it has an ugly paragraph of text. Good enough gas efficiency to reliably mag dump. Not much felt recoil. No CO2 magazines. Uses the KWA/KSC ball type hopup system which is inferior to Marui's. Small gun, replacement parts are generally easy to get (KWA Pro-Shop). "Sling Mounts" are odd, merely little holes (Many users attach keyrings to these). The barrel doesn't have normal 14mm threading.

 

WE SCAR. More expensive. A bit more rare. Unlicensed, so many stores no longer carry it. Gas efficiency is iffy, can't always mag dump. More felt recoil. CO2 magazines available. Uses the Marui type hopup (VSR Rubbers) which works well. Larger rifle, replacement parts are available (Trigger packs, barrels, rubbers, stock folding part). Heavy rifle. Has normal 14mm threading.

 

 

I may think of more later.

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First thing you may want to get down is your terminology.

 

I'm assuming you're using "OB" as "Open Bolt". The original use of this term is to describe the position of the bolt in the firing sequence of a firearm. In a closed bolt system, the bolt is in the forwards position when the gun fires. This means that a round is in the chamber, and pulling the trigger releases the hammer which hits the firing pin, sticking the primer of the bullet. The bolt then proceeds to recoil backwards, eject the spent casing, reset forwards and load a new bullet.

 

An open bolt system has the bolt in the rearwards position. The chamber is initially empty. Pulling the trigger allows the bolt to move forwards, chambering a round, and firing the bullet. The recoil of the bullet allows the bolt to reset itself, ready to shoot again.

 

 

Now, for airsoft, WE coined the term "Open Bolt" and "Closed Bolt" to refer to their line of Gas-Blowback rifles. The earlier attempts featured a brass tube in the middle of the chamber (they called it "realistic" because it was the same color as a bullet..).

Eventually, they redesigned their rifles to be more like Marui pistols. The chamber was free of the brass tube, and they called it "Open Bolt". The firing mechanism was technically a closed bolt system, but the chamber was literally open. Hence, WE OB system.

 

 

The KWA you're looking at is not an OB system.

 

Sorry for the rant. But on to your original question.

 

 

KWA MP7. Cheaper. Easy (enough) to find. Licensed, but it has an ugly paragraph of text. Good enough gas efficiency to reliably mag dump. Not much felt recoil. No CO2 magazines. Uses the KWA/KSC ball type hopup system which is inferior to Marui's. Small gun, replacement parts are generally easy to get (KWA Pro-Shop). "Sling Mounts" are odd, merely little holes (Many users attach keyrings to these). The barrel doesn't have normal 14mm threading.

 

WE SCAR. More expensive. A bit more rare. Unlicensed, so many stores no longer carry it. Gas efficiency is iffy, can't always mag dump. More felt recoil. CO2 magazines available. Uses the Marui type hopup (VSR Rubbers) which works well. Larger rifle, replacement parts are available (Trigger packs, barrels, rubbers, stock folding part). Heavy rifle. Has normal 14mm threading.

 

 

I may think of more later.

 

Is there one you would recommend, thank you for your reply... and I'm more of a rifle guy but I really like the mp7, and I have found a WE SCAR licensed by FN, it's even got the caliber and a serial number without the ugly paragraph on the other side of the gun

 

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Is there one you would recommend, thank you for your reply... and I'm more of a rifle guy but I really like the mp7, and I have found a WE SCAR licensed by FN, it's even got the caliber and a serial number without the ugly paragraph on the other side of the gun

 

Those are trademarks, but they're not licensed by FNH.

 

For recommendations...Hmmm. My two GBBR go to recommendations are the WE M4 and the GHK G5/PDW. I just wrote a post about the GHK PDW here.

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Those are trademarks, but they're not licensed by FNH.

 

For recommendations...Hmmm. My two GBBR go to recommendations are the WE M4 and the GHK G5/PDW. I just wrote a post about the GHK PDW here.

 

It seems like a decent gun but doesn't meet my criteria of fps out of the box, I'm looking for something I can customize as I see fit externally but not really looking to do much internally but maybe a new barrel ad a few other things

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It seems like a decent gun but doesn't meet my criteria of fps out of the box, I'm looking for something I can customize as I see fit externally but not really looking to do much internally but maybe a new barrel ad a few other things

 

"Criteria of fps"? You're killing me here. What exactly would be your "criteria"? It's definitely high enough for anything but Really Cool-sniping...

 

Also. "Not really looking to do much internally". This is the opposite of what any GBBR's need. Cleaning and lubrication are both necessities. Most GBBR's also need internal upgrades to function reliably. This is why I recommend the GHK G5/PDW. They don't need any internal upgrades, and both function with low maintenance. The KWA MP7 also fits the bill, but there have been reports of lower receivers cracking on Arnie's.

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